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I'm liking this guy more and more. Seems like a class act. Now, let's hope he's got a few good pitches left in him!

You're going to have to fight Sir Robin for him. That chainmail wearing three-dollar bill LOVES Smoltz.

The Braves apparently have no respect for their former ace pitchers. That's too bad. Glavine, you are more than welcome to retire in a Marlins uniform.

Let's see... The Braves brought Glavine back as a nice gesture after he abandoned them for more money with the Mets. Glavine pitched only 63 innings with a 5.54 ERA and opponents batting .288 last year and got $1,000,000.00. The Braves have a potential pitching phenom waiting in the wing in AAA baseball.
And Smoltz, freshly divorced and remarried, making a comment about "it's not how you treat people?" Come on...

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Originally posted 07:57 AM ET  06.05 by cmacatl

Let's see... The Braves brought Glavine back as a nice gesture after he abandoned them for more money with the Mets. Glavine pitched only 63 innings with a 5.54 ERA and opponents batting .288 last year and got $1,000,000.00. The Braves have a potential pitching phenom waiting in the wing in AAA baseball. And Smoltz, freshly divorced and remarried, making a comment about "it's not how you treat people?" Come on...

nicely stated... Glavine was paid (and well) to perform.... it was time to let go

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Originally posted 07:57 AM ET  06.05 by cmacatl

Let's see... The Braves brought Glavine back as a nice gesture after he abandoned them for more money with the Mets. Glavine pitched only 63 innings with a 5.54 ERA and opponents batting .288 last year and got $1,000,000.00. The Braves have a potential pitching phenom waiting in the wing in AAA baseball. And Smoltz, freshly divorced and remarried, making a comment about "it's not how you treat people?" Come on...

absolutely. i like smoltz but he can shut his pie hole. hard to feel bad for a guy that has made $130MM in his career. Glavine should've retired right after that god-awful playoff start a few years ago...

When one of these two actually pitches a game or two this season, then they have the right to talk about what happened with the Braves organization. You can't blame the Braves for not wanting to pay the large numbers these 'class acts' wanted, just to sit on the DL all season, so that they could retire Braves. They should both have taken a cue from Maddux and retired last year so that all three would be inducted to Cooperstown together in 5 years.

Glavine is gonna get picked up by the Mets and he's gonna cram a few of his best pitches right up their butts the first time he gets to pitch against them.

see what happens to you when you wear that jersey...you start acting like an uppity ashwhole.

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Originally posted 07:57 AM ET  06.05 by cmacatl

Let's see... The Braves brought Glavine back as a nice gesture after he abandoned them for more money with the Mets. Glavine pitched only 63 innings with a 5.54 ERA and opponents batting .288 last year and got $1,000,000.00. The Braves have a potential pitching phenom waiting in the wing in AAA baseball. And Smoltz, freshly divorced and remarried, making a comment about "it's not how you treat people?" Come on...

as a couple others acknowledged right before me-
BINGO

It's business- not personal

Wow, do I ever hate the new SI layout. Fix it, Red Hat.

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Originally posted 08:43 AM ET  06.05 by Atro Steals Yer Base

Glavine is gonna get picked up by the Mets and he's gonna cram a few of his best pitches right up their butts the first time he gets to pitch against them.

if he returns to the Mets- there are goign to be ALOT of met fans
that will be calling for Omar's head- I don't think mets management
has the gut to bring him back

Smoltz you Jerk.....Tell us how you felt in 2003 when Glavine left Atlanta to play for the rival New York Mets, signing a four-year, $42.5 million deal......

Was that the way you "treat" the organization that emplyed you all those years and the fans that cheered you on?

Only the Braves would have paid him the last two years. A nice gesture on their part..Too nice.

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Originally posted 08:57 AM ET  06.05 by 50yearfan

Smoltz you Jerk.....Tell us how you felt in 2003 when Glavine left Atlanta to play for the rival New York Mets, signing a four-year, $42.5 million deal......Was that the way you "treat" the organization that emplyed you all those years and the fans that cheered you on? Only the Braves would have paid him the last two years. A nice gesture on their part..Too nice.

Atlanta hasn't paid him much this year - he hasn't been on the MLB roster - and they cut him before he was apparently due a nice sized bonus.

As for Glavine signing with another team - it's all about the benjamins. Atlanta has never paid market value for their own players - instead whining about being small market - and getting stars who want to stay to play for less (see Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine who ALL could have made more during their peak by leaving Atlanta, but they didn't). So don't play the Braves have been altruistic in actually paying him the last year (he came back last year, not two years ago).

As for the Braves releasing him - I've got no problem with that. It's the WAY they did it. Apparently leading him on - telling him he'd be called up when he finished rehab, and then deciding to save a couple ducats by dropping him. When Glavine was talking to the Mets - he didn't tell the Braves he was going to re-sign, and in fact agree on a deal like Raffy Furcal, only to leap for more dollars. That's called respect. Glavine respected the Braves enough to be honest with them. The Braves didn't respect Glavine enough to be honest with him. No surprise that Smoltz - who did whatever the Braves wanted during his HOF tenure there - spoke up.

The Braves are usually a class organization - but they failed here. And here's hoping Tommy Boy has one decent season left in him.

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Originally posted 08:52 AM ET  06.05 by jgb

if he returns to the Mets- there are goign to be ALOT of met fans that will be calling for Omar's head- I don't think mets managementhas the gut to bring him back

Well they better do something, those Mets, because having two pitchers in a five-man rotation doesn't work. They should at least give him a shot, they sure don't have much to lose at this point.

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Originally posted 08:57 AM ET  06.05 by 50yearfan

Smoltz you Jerk.....Tell us how you felt in 2003 when Glavine left Atlanta to play for the rival New York Mets, signing a four-year, $42.5 million deal......Was that the way you "treat" the organization that emplyed you all those years and the fans that cheered you on? Only the Braves would have paid him the last two years. A nice gesture on their part..Too nice.

So, anyone who signs with a team other than the one they came up with is not being loyal?? Really? So pro athletes should be held to a higher standard than the average worker who can ply his or her trade to whichever company they choose? Give it a rest. I know back in your day, people started with one company (probably because there was only one company in each industry, I mean, I don't know more than one carriage and buggy company ...) and retired with a nice gold watch. Welcome to the new generation - people are free to choose where to work - and I believe the average employee makes something like 7 job moves during a career. So to bemoan Glavine for not being loyal is simply outdated thinking. If this was 1850 - or even 1950, you might be on to something. But like discovering the earth isn't flat, this is a new day. Glavine wasn't disloyal. He was honest with the Braves, and signed with a team that offered him more money. He earned his money with the Braves for all those years (and since he could have made more in say, New York - to say he should be thankful for the small salary he earned last year is ... laughable).

Let me know when you realize it's 2009 and not 1959.

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Originally posted 09:13 AM ET  06.05 by Shooter_McGavin

Atlanta hasn't paid him much this year - he hasn't been on the MLB roster - and they cut him before he was apparently due a nice sized bonus.As for Glavine signing with another team - it's all about the benjamins. Atlanta has never paid market value for their own players - instead whining about being small market - and getting stars who want to stay to play for less (see Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine who ALL could have made more during their peak by leaving Atlanta, but they didn't). So don't play the Braves have been altruistic in actually paying him the last year (he came back last year, not two years ago).As for the Braves releasing him - I've got no problem with that. It's the WAY they did it. Apparently leading him on - telling him he'd be called up when he finished rehab, and then deciding to save a couple ducats by dropping him. When Glavine was talking to the Mets - he didn't tell the Braves he was going to re-sign, and in fact agree on a deal like Raffy Furcal, only to leap for more dollars. That's called respect. Glavine respected the Braves enough to be honest with them. The Braves didn't respect Glavine enough to be honest with him. No surprise that Smoltz - who did whatever the Braves wanted during his HOF tenure there - spoke up.The Braves are usually a class organization - but they failed here. And here's hoping Tommy Boy has one decent season left in him.

Good post. Just do not want to hear about a player who goes for the money and then we are supposed to feel sorry somehow at the end of their career..

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I'm liking this guy more and more. Seems like a class act. Now, let's hope he's got a few good pitches left in him!

Never a Braves fan..and definately not a Sawx fan, but Smoltz is a standup guy. I think it was pretty classless of the Braves to let Glavine go that way. Wonder which hat he wears when he goes into Cooperstown?

....is Smoltz trying to fill Schilling's shoes? Why should Atlanta pay the guy an extra million if they don't think he can get major league hitters out any longer? Answer: they shouldn't.

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Originally posted 08:57 AM ET  06.05 by 50yearfan

Smoltz you Jerk.....Tell us how you felt in 2003 when Glavine left Atlanta to play for the rival New York Mets, signing a four-year, $42.5 million deal......Was that the way you "treat" the organization that emplyed you all those years and the fans that cheered you on? Only the Braves would have paid him the last two years. A nice gesture on their part..Too nice.

Exactly. When Glavine was the union rep with the Braves, he always said its "just business." He proved that when he skipped town for a few morer bucks a few years ago as well. The Braves just returned the feelings of "its just business."