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A recommendation to change the current Bowl Championship Series could come out of the Collegiate Commissioners Association meetings, which run Tuesday through Thursday at The Broadmoor in Colorado Springs. A radical proposal from Mountain West Conference commissioner Craig Thompson will be further examined Tuesday. If any aspects of the proposal are accepted, the commissioners will recommend them to the BCS Presidential Oversight Committee, which has a conference call June 24. Under his proposal, a conference would qualify for one of the BCS bowls only by meeting two criteria: playing at least 20 regular-season games in a two-year period against teams from the six major BCS conferences; and winning at least 40 percent of those games. A new 12-person committee, made up of one representative from each of the 11 conferences, plus Notre Dame, would determine the top 25 teams at the end of the regular season. The top 10 teams would play in the Rose, Fiesta, Orange and Sugar bowls, plus a to-be-determined fifth bowl currently hosting a non-BCS bowl. The winners of the top four bowls would play in semifinals one week later, with those two winners meeting in another week for the national title.

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June 15, 2009  07:44 AM ET

Love the idea. You keep the bowls, and you get the playoffs.

June 15, 2009  07:48 AM ET

I like the idea, but The Rose Bowl won't stand for it...I mean, they didn't want the Plus one system, which essentially is "all the bowls," plus one more game for the championship. Their reasoning? It takes away from the prestige of the Rose Bowl.

puts the BS in BCS...

June 15, 2009  07:58 AM ET

I'll believe it when I see it come to fruition.

June 15, 2009  08:11 AM ET

This is kinda like having a date with someone totally out of your league who keeps giving you glimpses of cleavage. You know damn well that she isn't going to let you in her pants, she just wants you to be interested in what's underneath them. People need to stop teasing us about a CFB playoff unless and until they're ****ing gonna give us one.

June 15, 2009  08:19 AM ET

yup, more nonsense to the nonsensical bcs mess.... i like the idea, but there are many others i like to, some even better, but when all is said and done, the control freaks will not give us what we want, a playoff.

June 15, 2009  08:51 AM ET

The BCS already laughed at the MWC proposal once. The BCS Committe even laughed at Congress.

None of this makes a damn bit of difference.

Under his proposal, a conference would qualify for one of the BCS bowls only by meeting two criteria: playing at least 20 regular-season games in a two-year period against teams from the six major BCS conferences; and winning at least 40 percent of those games.

- So if the MWC can go 8-12 against the BCS conferences and beat Indiana, Duke, Iowa State, Mississippi State, Baylor, WAshington, Washington State, and Syracuse. BAM. They're in. Not going to pass.

A new 12-person committee, made up of one representative from each of the 11 conferences, plus Notre Dame, would determine the top 25 teams at the end of the regular season.
- Made up of who? The whole point of the computers and numerous polls is to reduce the bais of voting blocks and regional preferences. This has all of the negatives of polling (too small sample size, too much power in the hands of the elite) and none of the benefits of the national polls with hundreds of voters or the "impartiality" of the computers.

top 10 teams would play in the (BCS) bowls
So this mythical committee will get to hand pick the BCS Bowl participants. I see no way that the Bowl Sponsors, current Big 6 conference members, or fans will stand for that.

The MWC proposal brought new ideas (I read the full document) but nothing of substance. I've seen message board posts with more thought and practicality.

June 15, 2009  08:58 AM ET

Good post PSU. My thoughts as well.

June 15, 2009  09:23 AM ET

A jacka-s-s is a horse designed by committee. We don't need another committee.

June 15, 2009  09:26 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

I like the idea, but The Rose Bowl won't stand for it...I mean, they didn't want the Plus one system, which essentially is "all the bowls," plus one more game for the championship. Their reasoning? It takes away from the prestige of the Rose Bowl.puts the BS in BCS...

You may or may not have noticed, but the Pac-10 got a new commish, to go along with a new Rose Bowl director. Just two small steps in getting things to change, but definitely going the right direction.

As for this proposal, it probably won't pass, and there are some holes in it for sure. At the same time, the more pressure that can be put on the BCS to make changes is fine by me. Some point in time, they will have to figure out some sort of playoff system, which is what every college football fan wants.

June 15, 2009  09:43 AM ET

The only way they are going to get rid of the current system is if people stop watching these meaningless bowl games in person and on TV. If college football fans are really serious about wanting a playoff they need to put their money where their mouth is and stop buying tickets to the meaningless fiesta bowl and stop watching it on TV. When ratings plummet and they are playing in front of a half filled staidum then maybe they will make some changes. Until they they are still making mad money so why should they change?

June 15, 2009  09:47 AM ET

To insure integrity, of the 20+ BCS games played by a non-BCS conferences computers should rank all BCS schools at the end of the season, prior to bowls, and the 20+ BCS teams must average in the upper half of all BCS teams in the computer rankings.

June 15, 2009  09:52 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

To insure integrity, of the 20+ BCS games played by a non-BCS conferences computers should rank all BCS schools at the end of the season, prior to bowls, and the 20+ BCS teams must average in the upper half of all BCS teams in the computer rankings.

If that is a requirement... good luck to Utah, Boise State, BYU, TCU, et. al actually getting a top program to agree to play.

If BCS treams can guarantee that a non-BCS team is eliminated from consideration simply by refusing to schedule OOC games, don't you think that the non-BCS teams would get hosed in that deal?

June 15, 2009  09:58 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

A jacka-s-s is a horse designed by committee. We don't need another committee.

They let us say "ass", why wouldn't "jackass" be permissible? I'm about to get annoyed with FN to the extent that I may stop playing in their playpen.

June 15, 2009  10:16 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I'll believe it when I see it come to fruition.

Agree with you 100%.

June 15, 2009  10:20 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

I like the idea, but The Rose Bowl won't stand for it...I mean, they didn't want the Plus one system, which essentially is "all the bowls," plus one more game for the championship. Their reasoning? It takes away from the prestige of the Rose Bowl.puts the BS in BCS...

yeah but didn't we just read the Rose Bowl guy is moving on? Maybe this was part of the reasoning.

June 15, 2009  10:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

A jacka-s-s is a horse designed by committee. We don't need another committee.

We need to form a committee to review that statement.

June 15, 2009  10:23 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

You may or may not have noticed, but the Pac-10 got a new commish, to go along with a new Rose Bowl director. Just two small steps in getting things to change, but definitely going the right direction.

yeah this is what I remember. New blood new possibilities. Depends on who steps in I suppose.

June 15, 2009  10:24 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

The only way they are going to get rid of the current system is if people stop watching these meaningless bowl games in person and on TV. If college football fans are really serious about wanting a playoff they need to put their money where their mouth is and stop buying tickets to the meaningless fiesta bowl and stop watching it on TV. When ratings plummet and they are playing in front of a half filled staidum then maybe they will make some changes. Until they they are still making mad money so why should they change?

You'd have been better off saying it's never going to happen.

June 15, 2009  10:29 AM ET

There is a simple way to do this. Have the Big 10, Pac 10 expand and go to 12 teams each, and all 6 of the big conferences have a conference championship (and maybe the smaller ones do as well). 6 conference champs from BCS 6 are automatic bids, plus 2-4 wild card entries (like Bama, Texas, Utah and one other this past year would have made it). I would do an 8 team playoff having first round in the Cotton, Gator, etc bowls. Second round and final rotate between, Sugar, Rose, Fiesta and Orange. Pretty easy and would be done in the same time frame by Jan 7th, would not hinder finals for school at all. Complaints on that, eliminate a non-conference game.

Pac 10 add Boise St and Utah. Big 10 add ND, Rutgers or maybe even Missouri from Big XII so TCU can join Big XII. Big East add someone if they lose, SEC stays the same, ACC same

 
June 15, 2009  10:33 AM ET
QUOTE(#19):

There is a simple way to do this.

That is an idealistic solution and I can't argue with the principle... however implementing is the farthest thing from simple.

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