"The hope is the remaining cast -- veteran Jared Jeffries and prospects Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Jordan Hill and Toney Douglas -- are also a pull in luring an All-Star free agent."

LOL! Which marquee free agent will want to come and play with these clowns? New York Knicks fans are completely insane. Get it through your thick heads: LBJ ain't coming, neither is Wade or Bosh. I'll tell you what will happen: The Knicks will sign some second-rate free agent to max dollars and they will be in salary cap hell for the next 5 years. AGAIN. LMAO!

Don't think they'll get James, Wade or Bosh but Amare and/or Joe Johnson is possible and would be a great 1-2. Their prospects are very young, in time they should improve.

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Originally posted 08:40 AM ET  10.25 by Johnny Cage

Don't think they'll get James, Wade or Bosh but Amare and/or Joe Johnson is possible and would be a great 1-2. Their prospects are very young, in time they should improve.

I doubt it. Amare has always been about his own stats and his own mega contract---not about the team. Its hard to win with guys like that.

Joe Johnson is over-rated. He is a middle of the road shooting guard---definitely not a max contract guy. I would take Mo Williams, Roy, Ginobli, Ray Allen, P Pierce, over JJ.

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Originally posted 08:47 AM ET  10.25 by SPERMDYNASTY

I doubt it. Amare has always been about his own stats and his own mega contract---not about the team. Its hard to win with guys like that.Joe Johnson is over-rated. He is a middle of the road shooting guard---definitely not a max contract guy. I would take Mo Williams, Roy, Ginobli, Ray Allen, P Pierce, over JJ.

You're crazy, defenses tagret him nightly and he still produces and DA will get Amare to buy into his team concept again.

Mo is overrated, Ginobli is always hurt, Ray is pretty much a spot-up shooter, Pierce is on his last legs. Obviously Roy is better but you're calling JJ a middle of the road SG? That's absurd.

By the way, I have a question for all Knicks fans: Why are you always saying that Cleveland don't have a good supporting cast for LBJ? Do you think the knicks do? I would take Mo Williams, Shaq, and Delonte over Jarred Jefferies, Eddy Curry, Gallinari any day.

It is ridiculous: the Knicks have practically NO ONE who would get a game for most other teams in the league.

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Originally posted 08:52 AM ET  10.25 by Johnny Cage

You're crazy, defenses tagret him nightly and he still produces and DA will get Amare to buy into his team concept again.Mo is overrated, Ginobli is always hurt, Ray is pretty much a spot-up shooter, Pierce is on his last legs. Obviously Roy is better but you're calling JJ a middle of the road SG? That's absurd.

LOL...when has Amare EVER bought into the team concept? Sure he scores points...but he gives up AT LEAST as much at the other end. He is a huge liability defensively, and a ball-hog. Knicks are already full of me-first players; why do they need another one?

Fact: Joe Johnson is not in the top ten shooting guards in the NBA. He is a poor defender and doesn't create shots for others. He just doesn't do enough of the all-round things to be a great shooting guard. You look at Wade, Bryant. They are defending, scoring, assisting, rebounding---everything. Joe Johnson is far too one-dimensional.

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Originally posted 08:56 AM ET  10.25 by SPERMDYNASTY

LOL...when has Amare EVER bought into the team concept? Sure he scores points...but he gives up AT LEAST as much at the other end. He is a huge liability defensively, and a ball-hog. Knicks are already full of me-first players; why do they need another one?Fact: Joe Johnson is not in the top ten shooting guards in the NBA. He is a poor defender and doesn't create shots for others. He just doesn't do enough of the all-round things to be a great shooting guard. You look at Wade, Bryant. They are defending, scoring, assisting, rebounding---everything. Joe Johnson is far too one-dimensional.

Amare can play defense, average shot blocker(1.1 average) and a good rebounder(Career average-8.9). In Phoenix with DA and Nash, Amare was one of the best big's in the NBA, very skilled on offense.

FACT: JJ's in the top 5. Kobe, Wade, Roy, Ginobli(When healthy) and JJ.

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Originally posted 09:12 AM ET  10.25 by Johnny Cage

Amare can play defense, average shot blocker(1.1 average) and a good rebounder(Career average-8.9). In Phoenix with DA and Nash, Amare was one of the best big's in the NBA, very skilled on offense.FACT: JJ's in the top 5. Kobe, Wade, Roy, Ginobli(When healthy) and JJ.

So you're saying that JJ is better than Rip Hamilton? Better than Michael Redd? Better than Mo Williams? Better than Kevin Martin? They are far better all-round players than JJ.

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Originally posted 09:14 AM ET  10.25 by SPERMDYNASTY

So you're saying that JJ is better than Rip Hamilton? Better than Michael Redd? Better than Mo Williams? Better than Kevin Martin? They are far better all-round players than JJ.

Man you crack me up.
What's up with you and Mo Willaims, you guys need to get a room.
Per Coack K from the USA team practices - JJ was the MOST versatile guy on the floor in all those sessions. Per LBJ - JJ is the most underrated player in NBA.
Obviously you don't watch the hawks play much, and I won't blame you for that! But comparing JJ to Mo or Rip or martin shows you have NOOOO NBA knowledge at all. JJ is one-dimensional and you put KMartin over him?? really?
JJ is 3-time All Star after coming to Hawks, scores 20, gets about 6 boards and 5 assists. Plays excellent D.
Anyway, I don't care who the Knicks get, but if they can get JJ, they should consider themselves VERY lucky!
And I agree that you are not going too far by just getting Amare.

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Originally posted 09:14 AM ET  10.25 by SPERMDYNASTY

So you're saying that JJ is better than Rip Hamilton? Better than Michael Redd? Better than Mo Williams? Better than Kevin Martin? They are far better all-round players than JJ.

Yep, Rip and Redd play zero defense, Mo is a scoring PG that should be a #3 and Kevin Martin is good player on a terrible team, who else is going to score points on the Kings?

Not sure how any of those are better overall.

Walsh must be thing to himself that Isiah really screwed this thing up.

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Originally posted 09:14 AM ET  10.25 by SPERMDYNASTY

So you're saying that JJ is better than Rip Hamilton? Better than Michael Redd? Better than Mo Williams? Better than Kevin Martin? They are far better all-round players than JJ.

I have not seen much of JJ (who outside of GA has?) ... but I know most opinions of him in press & TV are high. Sure some of them are probably just parrots but for example I don't think that is true of, say, Hubie and certainly not 100% of NBA beat writers. I am a Cav fan and while I think Mo is better than he showed in last year's playoff, he is definitely not equal or better than JJ. JJ could use more aggressiveness in which case I think he would get more pub but that would not necessarily be a good team-idea.

joe johnson is better than mo williams, williams was a complete bust in the playoffs and he's playing off of maybe the best player in the NBA (plus he's really a PG), he's also better than rip, rip is old and all he can do is shoot (johnson is great off the dribble), ray allen is still very good but if you put JJ on Boston they would be much improved, and kevin martin has never been close to the playoffs, so who cares about him

Rip's decline has begun. Redd is too often injured and primarily a scorer when healthy.

The short list includes longshots LeBron James and Dwyane Wade and more attainable studs, Amare Stoudemire, Chris Bosh and Joe Johnson.

At the end of the day, all the above are on better teams than the Knicks. I see no reason any of the above to want to join the circus for less money. And the nucleus mentioned above is iffy at best. Even with one of these guys, the Knicks are still 3 or 4 years away from serious contention.

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Originally posted 10:31 AM ET  10.25 by Hllywd: Old Schoolin'

The short list includes longshots LeBron James and Dwyane Wade and more attainable studs, Amare Stoudemire, Chris Bosh and Joe Johnson.At the end of the day, all the above are on better teams than the Knicks. I see no reason any of the above to want to join the circus for less money. And the nucleus mentioned above is iffy at best. Even with one of these guys, the Knicks are still 3 or 4 years away from serious contention.

What you fail to realize is that with the Knicks once we get one franchise player we will take any player regardless of their salary or contract to help. If the Knicks had Lebron, are over the cap and lets say Monta Ellis wants out of Golden State we'll quickly get some players to match his salary and take on the long contract so Lebron can have a young neucleus to war with... and we can do that for all positions... balloon our cap to 150million and pay 100million in luxury tax... that's the NYC difference... get it? So no we won't do patch work by recycling old players like Gilbert... it won't take four years...

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Originally posted 08:47 AM ET  10.25 by SPERMDYNASTY

Joe Johnson is over-rated. He is a middle of the road shooting guard---definitely not a max contract guy. I would take Mo Williams, Roy, Ginobli, Ray Allen, P Pierce, over JJ.

You always find a way to prove your lack of baskebtall knowledge.

You look at the knicks and you ponder the thought that was it even meant for them to make it to the promise land.
You think could the city of dreams get back up like how the NY Giants shocked many two seasons ago.
But hence the knicks are far from a brink of return on that contention road.

Knicks are a bunch of NBA misfits
in another year or two you guys won't have but one or two left over from this bunch.
NY will take their place back in the NBA soon enough, I think we all know that.