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where's our youth phenom?

freddy...anyone...anyone...anyone at all?

Don't go to Arsenal. Look at Vela. He had good stints while on loan in Spain. Now he's just a Carling Cup player.

Hopefully Galvan has been watching the never-ending soap opera that is Freddy Adu.

Meaning he has advisors that won't make similar mistakes. Of course, getting into a system like Arsenal would likely prevent a soap opera from happening.

Could be a nice replacement for RvP when Wenger sells him for a nice chunk of change.

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Originally posted 10:43 AM ET  10.29 by kennybabs

where's our youth phenom?freddy...anyone...anyone...anyone at all?

they are coming through our U17's...

ive got my money on Gil....

Lletget is another option (assuming he sticks with the US)

and how could we forget about VB :D

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Originally posted 11:03 AM ET  10.29 by Otergod

they are coming through our U17's...ive got my money on Gil....Lletget is another option (assuming he sticks with the US)

Anton Peterlin, Cody Arnoux isn't bad either (both with Everton). These guys SHOULD be our future. And Gil really is the talk of the soccerworld community. What about the 2 kids who passed on IMG for Europe (good move). Didn't they go to Germany?

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Originally posted 10:50 AM ET  10.29 by Big Chaco

Don't go to Arsenal. Look at Vela. He had good stints while on loan in Spain. Now he's just a Carling Cup player.

Agreed. It'd be a good idea for him to go to a mid-table Spanish team and make his move to the Premiership when he's established himself.

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Originally posted 10:43 AM ET  10.29 by kennybabs

where's our youth phenom?

Probably playing another sport. Forgive me for being cynical this morning.

Anton Peterlin and Cody Arnoux are already in their 20s, and if they were really gonna be phenoms, there would be more evidence of it.

As it is, they're both twenty-somethings relegated to an EPL reserve squad on short contracts. Neither are going anywhere important. As far as I know, neither are even particular standouts on the reserve team.

If players like Altidore and Michael Bradley are of a similar age and on the first-team for top-flight clubs but still aren't considered true phenoms, then I don't see what there is to be excited about in Arnoux and Peterlin.

They will either come back to MLS, go down to lower-division teams in England, or, eventually, both.

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Originally posted 11:28 AM ET  10.29 by D-Wreck

Anton Peterlin, Cody Arnoux isn't bad either (both with Everton). These guys SHOULD be our future. And Gil really is the talk of the soccerworld community. What about the 2 kids who passed on IMG for Europe (good move). Didn't they go to Germany?

Gyua and Renken...

Gyua had issues with Wilmer, an ego filled by the hype of his own dad...

Renken is injured, but went for the pro contract that will see him playing in Germany and Vancouver til they are 17-18 yrs old...

Gyua has promise but a foot filled with led.
Renken is very much a promising prospect... hopefully he recovers from his injury and makes a splash in germany...

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Originally posted 11:52 AM ET  10.29 by serotonin

Anton Peterlin and Cody Arnoux are already in their 20s, and if they were really gonna be phenoms, there would be more evidence of it.As it is, they're both twenty-somethings relegated to an EPL reserve squad on short contracts. Neither are going anywhere important. As far as I know, neither are even particular standouts on the reserve team.If players like Altidore and Michael Bradley are of a similar age and on the first-team for top-flight clubs but still aren't considered true phenoms, then I don't see what there is to be excited about in Arnoux and Peterlin.They will either come back to MLS, go down to lower-division teams in England, or, eventually, both.

agreed with the age

but both players are getting PT with the reserves. I wouldnt be surprised to see Cody get loaned out to a CCC or League 1 team....

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Originally posted 11:40 AM ET  10.29 by The Las Vegas Genius

Probably playing another sport. Forgive me for being cynical this morning.

I'm in the same boat as you with respect to our "prospects" at this point. But I am very encouraged to see some of them dumping the American developmental model until somebody with some ability builds it into something respectable.

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Originally posted 11:52 AM ET  10.29 by serotonin

Anton Peterlin and Cody Arnoux are already in their 20s, and if they were really gonna be phenoms, there would be more evidence of it.As it is, they're both twenty-somethings relegated to an EPL reserve squad on short contracts. Neither are going anywhere important. As far as I know, neither are even particular standouts on the reserve team.If players like Altidore and Michael Bradley are of a similar age and on the first-team for top-flight clubs but still aren't considered true phenoms, then I don't see what there is to be excited about in Arnoux and Peterlin.They will either come back to MLS, go down to lower-division teams in England, or, eventually, both.

Very well put, actually. The true phenoms are identified by the age of 15 usually. If they've gone past the age of 20 the odds of being a late bloomer falls off the shelf dramatically.

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Originally posted 11:52 AM ET  10.29 by serotonin

Anton Peterlin and Cody Arnoux are already in their 20s, and if they were really gonna be phenoms, there would be more evidence of it.As it is, they're both twenty-somethings relegated to an EPL reserve squad on short contracts. Neither are going anywhere important. As far as I know, neither are even particular standouts on the reserve team.If players like Altidore and Michael Bradley are of a similar age and on the first-team for top-flight clubs but still aren't considered true phenoms, then I don't see what there is to be excited about in Arnoux and Peterlin.They will either come back to MLS, go down to lower-division teams in England, or, eventually, both.

Well, phenom may be the wrong word for Arnoux and Peterlin, but let's surrender on our kids too early. Everton wouldn't have taken a chance if they didn't see something. And Moyes has a good history with American players...

Okay, well, in conclusion then: we don't have any phenoms. There, are ya all happy now!?!?!?
Thanks for throw rabbit turds in my chocolate soup.
;)

No worries, I know Oter is all over it (like Sasha Grey in a GB flic) and will keep us up to date when the first "Tiger Woods of Soccer" finally rises from the ashes of our scorched American earth.

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Originally posted 01:24 PM ET  10.29 by D-Wreck

Well, phenom may be the wrong word for Arnoux and Peterlin, but let's surrender on our kids too early. Everton wouldn't have taken a chance if they didn't see something. And Moyes has a good history with American players...

NOT surrender

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Originally posted 01:24 PM ET  10.29 by D-Wreck

And Moyes has a good history with American players...

Maybe I missed the memo, but what other Americans besides Tim Howard has Moyes coached? I know he liked what he saw in America about the athleticism of the players here, but I'm not sure he's actually developed any American talent besides Howard (and I do credit Moyes with rebuilding Howard after SAF bounced him from United).

Martin could have had a chance to show more people his talent, but he was left of off the U-17 World Cup squad for disciplinary reasons.

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Originally posted 02:24 PM ET  10.29 by dynamo818

Maybe I missed the memo, but what other Americans besides Tim Howard has Moyes coached? I know he liked what he saw in America about the athleticism of the players here, but I'm not sure he's actually developed any American talent besides Howard (and I do credit Moyes with rebuilding Howard after SAF bounced him from United).

He was pretty much the major reason McBride came to England from germany. He coached McBride at Preston North End and was a verbal proponent of his early on when the English press/critics said McBride was too slow and unskilled. He later followed Moyes to Everton. So, McBride and Howard... That's two more Americans than a lot of managers have managed in England.

this guy looks like Ching