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Billionaires squaring off with multi-millionaires, about how to divide future billions. Talk about killing the golden goose.....

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Originally posted 08:59 AM ET  11.05 by worthawg

Billionaires squaring off with multi-millionaires, about how to divide future billions. Talk about killing the golden goose.....

amazing isnt it

Let em strike stay out forever. I'll just watch college football and high school ball. Screw the NFL.

This is the ultimate " Rumor." The players have NO interest in striking. They are fine with things just the way it is. If there is a work stoppage someday, it will be " LOCK OUT" by the owners-got it? It is the owners who opted out of the agreement, NOT the players. They do not want the 65% ( I think that is correct ) total revenue to go to the players. They NEVER thought they would make this kind of money and the cap would triple since it started. They want to keep MORE of that big pot of money....
60% of ALL NFL players see ONE NFL contract in their lifetime. SOOO, it is not about rookie pay either. If they want a rookie cap, then the players want that pool of money to go to the vets, the owners want to keep it......$$$$

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Originally posted 09:09 AM ET  11.05 by scrubber

Let em strike stay out forever. I'll just watch college football and high school ball. Screw the NFL.

I'd rather go to a UFL game anyway. I like having time to myself.

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Originally posted 09:18 AM ET  11.05 by Wawa-we-wa

I'd rather go to a UFL game anyway. I like having time to myself.

Won't be much of a UFL (or CFL, for that matter) when all availble players are called up for scab duty. (owners are currently speed dialing Johny Utah's agent, just in case)

Most players, as much money as they make, live paycheck to paycheck just like most other people. It's hard to believe, but true. The owners can outwait them, and the players know it. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot to let things get to that point.

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Originally posted 09:16 AM ET  11.05 by 50yearfan

...It is the owners who opted out of the agreement, NOT the players. They do not want the 65% ( I think that is correct ) total revenue to go to the players. They NEVER thought they would make this kind of money and the cap would triple since it started. They want to keep MORE of that big pot of money....60% of ALL NFL players see ONE NFL contract in their lifetime. SOOO, it is not about rookie pay either. If they want a rookie cap, then the players want that pool of money to go to the vets, the owners want to keep it......$$$$

God forbid that the veterans actually get paid before the untested rooks!!! Owners have made this bed, players will play until they're told they can't.

We are scared because of strikes and lockouts by the MLB, NHL and NBA one of the things we like about football is the fact the players and owners have their heads on straight so far.

Let us see what will happen and there is no reason for a strike. No salary cap which is coming up will have the big market teams overpay many players expect Dallas to have been setting up for that for the last few years. JJ has said he hates paying to keep some teams afloat, he won't with no salary cap.

We still have time, but a strike what purpose would it serve?

To say the Pats don't cheat is , "To be blunt, it's a flat-out, bald-faced, capital-letters lie,"

ESPN Magazine had an interesting article from an anonymous player in the NFL who pointed out the realities of the big contracts we hear about all the time. First of all, as 50YearFan and Devi8ed suggest, most players don't get the big contracts, and the average career in the NFL is only 3 years. Much of the money in a big contract isn't guaranteed, which means that if the guy isn't producing he can get cut, traded, or have his contract renegotiated. Then about half of the money goes to taxes, 3% to an agent (15% if he gets an endorsement deal), attorneys, and in many cases a lot of others the player has on his payroll. I don't have the article in front of me (read it in a waiting room), but one player had something like 30 people on his payroll. The author went on to talk about the number of family members who expect financial assistance from the high-paid pro, and how tough it is to tell your second-cousin you can't help him. How you can't buy your widowed mother a mansion, and they'll have to settle for a modest home. Now, granted teams are throwing ridiculous money at kids in a lot of cases, who aren't smart enough to stay out of strip clubs, who feel like they have to represent a certain life-style with flashy clothes and expensive cars or risk teasing from teammates. But in most cases, it's just an elite minority that are "millionaires". They get to play a game they love and make a living at it, and I'm not feeling sorry for them. I'd trade places with most of them. But the ones that make the headlines are the real rank and file in the union, and it sounds like we get a distorted picture of things.

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Originally posted 10:04 AM ET  11.05 by kevrhon

But the ones that make the headlines are the real rank and file in the union, and it sounds like we get a distorted picture of things.

I think we really do. And thehealth issues a lot of these players have to live with for the rest of their lives is just beginning to become known. The players are the product. They are the "widget" and they deserve the bulk of the revenue..No one ever paid a penny to see an owner in their life-unless it was to see him run out of town.

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Originally posted 08:59 AM ET  11.05 by worthawg

Billionaires squaring off with multi-millionaires, about how to divide future billions. Talk about killing the golden goose.....

Great point!

This is nothing more than PR people for the owners, who have already agreed on a lock-out, trying to pre-emptively make the players look like the bad guys so that when football comes to a stop they will get the blame. But as Thomas said, it is not the players who want out of the agreement both sides just signed, it is the owners. If they would simply be men and live up to the terms they signed their names to, there would be no issue here. But they got what they wanted in the short term, and now they don't want to live up to their side of the deal. So a lock-out is coming, but it won't be on the players this time around.

I have to say striking right before or during the playoffs would make no sense as it would really upset the fans and as the season is over the big money will have been made already by the owners for the rest of the season.

NO way you convince a playoff bound team NOT to play....just wouldn't happen. They work to hard to reach the playoffs... this is silly

thomas looks like he's about to cut one.

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Originally posted 09:23 AM ET  11.05 by worthawg

Won't be much of a UFL (or CFL, for that matter) when all availble players are called up for scab duty. (owners are currently speed dialing Johny Utah's agent, just in case)

You think the quality of play would go down in the UFL even more? Also, I think Shane Falco is ahead of Johnny Utah on the coveted QBs list. Even notice you've never seen those two together.

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Originally posted 09:09 AM ET  11.05 by scrubber

Let em strike stay out forever. I'll just watch college football and high school ball. Screw the NFL.

You are serious? I bet those stud college players will be "extra motivated" now when they realize they can't go pro then, right? MORON!!!!

"I think we really do. And thehealth issues a lot of these players have to live with for the rest of their lives is just beginning to become known. The players are the product. They are the "widget" and they deserve the bulk of the revenue..No one ever paid a penny to see an owner in their life-unless it was to see him run out of town. "

Simple solution, DON"T PLAY!! nobody is forcing you to play and put your life at risk. Get a normal 9-5 job like verybody else. Players have a choice.