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NASCAR eyeing greener fuel alternatives

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09:46 AM ET 12.10 | Just two years removed from using high-octane leaded racing fuel in its cars, NASCAR has been somewhat behind the curve when it comes to environmentally friendly fuel alternatives. But speaking Tuesday at the inaugural Motor Sport Business Forum North America, NASCAR chief marketing officer Steve Phelps said the sanctioning body is in the process of taking the next step toward going green. "We're looking at the technologies as well as it relates to the product on the track," Phelps said. According to Phelps, that could mean an alternative fuel sometime in the near future. Other series, like the Indy Racing League and American LeMans Series, already are using biofuels and oils.

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July 25, 2010  08:03 PM ET

Maybe they could go to pedal cars. Would that be green enough for the enviro fanatics?

August 29, 2010  07:24 PM ET

E-85 ........105 octane...runs cooler then gasoline...ethanol is not corrosive like methanol..

only need to change carb...and make sure you are not using a paper fuel filter...fuel pump needs to be able to supply about 30% more fuel since it does not contain the BTU as gasoline...

might need to increase the size of the fuel cell to for the slighter worst gas mileage.

August 29, 2010  10:58 PM ET

for the record the LeMans Audi's use "synthetic" diesel fuel, not bio-diesel made from cooking or vegee oil. And the only reson they make all that power is they are turbocharged and use very high pressure injection (i.e. kinda like the EETEC system that Bombardier uses and some air is also injected, like free supercharging; atomizes fuel) If Nascar wants to play the green card they will have to pick some different cars or use Ethanol. They need to get on the bandwagon and first throw out the carbs and go to fuel injection, next throw out the COT car, next put in more road coarse races and rid us of the boring mile-and-a-halfs and get rid of the chase. Put more points for winning races and hardly any points for second on down. Then you will see some racing. Oh and this time, let them really race "with the gloves off".

May 26, 2011  01:02 PM ET

This just in: biofuels don't actually ruin the engine sound.

May 29, 2011  04:42 PM ET
QUOTE:

In the not too distant future it will be the guy with the strongest rubber band that wins the race.

Only if the rubber band trees are organically grown in a sustainable fashion.

February 27, 2012  10:51 PM ET

NASCAR went to fuel injection this year

May 9, 2012  01:11 PM ET

Wow NASCAR still exists? I thought if the recession and high fuel costs wouldn't kill it having the most boring champion ever (Jimmie can drive but thats it) as the face of the franchise would.

May 11, 2012  09:50 PM ET

It sounds like Nascar is getting way too political for it's own good. The grass roots of Nascar are deeply seeded on high performance moonshine runners who had high performance cars engineered and modified to out run the local law enforcement, who knows, the ol boys may have even been burnin some of that shine in their cars to boost the octane levels. K.eep I.t S.imple S.tupid and stop messing around with the fuel and keep racing the way it should be, loud, fast and exciting without the political concerns for the tree huggers. If they don't like it, then too damn bad, there is nothing like the smell of racing fuel in the morning. Don't mess things up Nascar!!!!!!

June 16, 2012  10:12 AM ET

I'm amused by the guys who are lubed up about tree huggers and enviro fanatics. Look, this is the natural evolution of the sport, making faster cars with better technology and fuels. If you're a traditionalist, go back to racing mule carts. NASCAR has lagged behind the world. In the 1980s the famous B-group World Rally Cars were running 600-hp normally aspirated engines in a 4-wh-drive platform across snow, ice, mud, gravel, rocks, and guess what? Now the little 1.6 liter turbocharged 4-cyl engines with modern drive systems and suspensions and better fuels, and restricter plates, go FASTER than those supposed muscle cars went over the same competitive stages. Feel free to bellow your love of high-octane V8s like a herd of old **** elk but realize you're a dinosaur, wrinkled and old, you're loving a place and time in history, an idea, not a competitive car by today's standards.

June 16, 2012  10:16 AM ET

I'm amused by the guys who are lubed up about tree huggers and enviro fanatics. Look, this is the natural evolution of the sport, making faster cars with better technology and fuels. If you're a traditionalist, go back to racing mule carts. NASCAR has lagged behind the world. In the 1980s the famous B-group World Rally Cars were running 600-hp normally aspirated engines in a 4-wh-drive platform across snow, ice, mud, gravel, rocks, and guess what? Now the little 1.6 liter turbocharged 4-cyl engines with modern drive systems and suspensions and better fuels, and restricter plates, go FASTER than those supposed muscle cars went over the same competitive stages. Feel free to bellow your love of high-octane V8s like a herd of old **** elk but realize you're a dinosaur, wrinkled and dying, you're loving a place and time in history, an idea, not a competitive car by today's standards.

June 16, 2012  10:39 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Wow NASCAR still exists? I thought if the recession and high fuel costs wouldn't kill it having the most boring champion ever (Jimmie can drive but thats it) as the face of the franchise would.

Its all part of the script they agreed upon before the season.

July 17, 2012  01:33 AM ET

You must be easily amused, Brat. We love our "old" technology with race fuel - 108 octane min. and the real "twisted sister" bodied cars. There were a few tracks that were dominated by certain teams, but it was never "The Rick Hendrick Show" week after week. I used to love nascar racing, I now absolutely despise it. NASCAR has taken all aspects of using ones imagination and skill to make a better horse with the parts they used then. The saftey changes are the only thing that has done any good for the sport. It will die soon enough now that the FOOLISH epa branded garbage got involved in something that leaves very light to no smog footprint, even with leaded racing fuel. Just not enough cars operating at a high enough time or level to ever be measureable. Same thing with motocross racing. YOU stupid EPA money grubbers just cannot leave very good alone. Two stroke racing was, by far , much better, more challeging, and required much more skill to go fast with, but the raw horsepower has always been with those 2 stroke engines. Now you run a POS designed 4 stroke that costs 8 times more to field than it ever took before, and the engines just will not take the strain. Wanna argue with me? I AM a racer, and I do know what I am saying, The EPA does not have one single bit of common sense, and if we can get together and reshape our stupid , idiotic, money grubbing, baby killer government, I will promise, there will NEVER be another stupid college degraded EPA official left in this country, along with a whole lot of other idiots in power. They might as well just GET OUT of MY country and go to brazil or somewhere that people like to be run by BIGOTS like YOU. P.S. Dont say another word out of your stinkin butt, we dont like you. LEAVE

November 12, 2012  04:19 AM ET

Dittos to Slick & Dartgame......this coming from an old school female drag racing fan (NASCAR is a newer thing for me). Alcohol, maybe...for the sake of the moonshining tropes....but don't jack everything up because of PC environmaniac strong arming.....

November 12, 2012  04:50 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

I'm amused by the guys who are lubed up about tree huggers and enviro fanatics. Look, this is the natural evolution of the sport, making faster cars with better technology and fuels. If you're a traditionalist, go back to racing mule carts. NASCAR has lagged behind the world. In the 1980s the famous B-group World Rally Cars were running 600-hp normally aspirated engines in a 4-wh-drive platform across snow, ice, mud, gravel, rocks, and guess what? Now the little 1.6 liter turbocharged 4-cyl engines with modern drive systems and suspensions and better fuels, and restricter plates, go FASTER than those supposed muscle cars went over the same competitive stages. Feel free to bellow your love of high-octane V8s like a herd of old **** elk but realize you're a dinosaur, wrinkled and dying, you're loving a place and time in history, an idea, not a competitive car by today's standards.

Get at least a few of your facts straight. Group B allowed cars of various engine sizes up to 4liters normally aspirated bigger engine meant heavier weight. The class was very popular and was only discontinued in about 1988 after there were a number of fatal crashes. The engines were too powerful for the chassis and running gear of the time. Modern WRC cars all make about 300hp and of course they are faster than the cars were in the 80s and 90s, that is the idea in any form of racing. As far as NASCAR goes I think if you were to look at the record book you would find that likewise today's race cars have smaller more efficient engines than in the past and are considerably faster, due to better tire/chassis/running gear technology.

January 27, 2013  09:16 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

It sounds like Nascar is getting way too political for it's own good. The grass roots of Nascar are deeply seeded on high performance moonshine runners who had high performance cars engineered and modified to out run the local law enforcement, who knows, the ol boys may have even been burnin some of that shine in their cars to boost the octane levels. K.eep I.t S.imple S.tupid and stop messing around with the fuel and keep racing the way it should be, loud, fast and exciting without the political concerns for the tree huggers. If they don't like it, then too damn bad, there is nothing like the smell of racing fuel in the morning. Don't mess things up Nascar!!!!!!

Dartgame, I'm with you all the way. I feel the same way you do about NASCAR getting too
"Politically Correct"

January 27, 2013  09:24 PM ET

That's telling 'em dmadman45, good go!

 
January 27, 2013  09:26 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

I'm amused by the guys who are lubed up about tree huggers and enviro fanatics. Look, this is the natural evolution of the sport, making faster cars with better technology and fuels. If you're a traditionalist, go back to racing mule carts. NASCAR has lagged behind the world. In the 1980s the famous B-group World Rally Cars were running 600-hp normally aspirated engines in a 4-wh-drive platform across snow, ice, mud, gravel, rocks, and guess what? Now the little 1.6 liter turbocharged 4-cyl engines with modern drive systems and suspensions and better fuels, and restricter plates, go FASTER than those supposed muscle cars went over the same competitive stages. Feel free to bellow your love of high-octane V8s like a herd of old **** elk but realize you're a dinosaur, wrinkled and dying, you're loving a place and time in history, an idea, not a competitive car by today's standards.

Take dmadman45's advise ...

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