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Bye bye Mike...

"I stand by Michael Vick, " Meachum said. "He's a good kid...(Kid? How old is Vick now...why do people keep refering to him as a kid, because of his ridiculous actions) in a bad situation. I'm a dog owner, a dog lover. I would not be involved in this case if I didn't believe in him." AND HIS BIG FAT CHECK THAT HE'S GOING TO PAY ME FOR DEFENDING HIM!!!

As for "negotiating" with the NFL...if Goodell lets this guy step on a field in the next 3-5 years or ever at all again I will have absolutely no respect for him. Negotiate with the NFL after he lied to his owner, lied to Goodell himself and he wants to "negotiate" with the NFL...what an arrogant P.O.S. He still thinks he is above everyone else after all of this. Unbelievable.

So, is there going to be jail time???

Good riddance to bad rubbish. I wonder exactly what he thinks his negotiating position is? I hope there is jail time and permanent banishment from the NFL.

I don't know about jail time for him. Every time I turn on the internet machine,I hear a different story.My guess is that he gets a huge fine and probation.

the plea deal vick is negotiating is for no jail time remember way back when i told yall the feds high cnviction rate is from plea deals if they had such a strong case they would not let him plea out convicting a murderer for icome tax ivasion is not that good i told you this was just a big name the wanted to try to bring down and get this country divided again and it worked thanks dum dums

Michael Vick has not "made a final decision, according to the two people with the knowledge of the case, because he wants to hear from the NFL what a guilty plea would do to his football career." He wants to "secure a deal that saves his NFL career, he could decide to go to trial, risking a lengthy prison sentence if he is convicted."
This is the word frm two unamed sources as quoted in the article.
My opinion is this:
First, Vick will probably plead- the odds are strongly against him at this point you send this guy to trial with 8 witnesses testifying against him. That would probably lead to about 3 years in jail and his career is over regardless of what the NFL does.
Second, his legal team is probably trying to work out a deal that would get him a plea that keeps the NFL from suspending him beyond a year and a sentence that would get him out of jail before 2008 training camp. If anyone picks him up right away is another story but he would be available to play again.
Whether any of this comes to fruition is anybody's guess.

Yea BLACKSHEEP, the whole reason the federal govt. wanted to go after Vick was to get the country divided again...where do you come up with this conspiracy crap??

Second, his legal team is probably trying to work out a deal that would get him a plea that keeps the NFL from suspending him beyond a year
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Yeah good luck with that Vick. I think Goodell is going to drop a Pete Rose. Any plea deal and any NFL punishment are mutually exclusive.

Blacksheep: Do you have any extra of those tin foil hats? I dont want the CIA using their brain wave machines.

You know what kills me about most of you guys? Act the same way when children are starving and being abused, or living in group/foster homes! What Vick did was despicable, but does it compare to what happens to unfortunate children on a daily basis? Where is this great moral outrage when it comes to women being beaten and abused? Where is the outrage when tons of drugs are rapidly destroying our great country? Where is the outrage when thousands die needlessly of gun violence? Where is the outrage when MILLIONS live in poverty?

It is just like I tell all my pro-life supporters: Don't tell me about banning abortion until you sign up to adopt an unwanted child. Get your priorties straight idiots!

Lastly, abusing prescription drugs is illegal the last time I checked. I did not see the moral outrage when Brett Favre admitted that he abused Vicodin. Double standard, maybe?

Chaz,
It's too late. "They" have obviously infiltrated your brain already. I feel...strangely...divided from you. Oh God, "they" have gotten me too.

It isn't the CIA that has the brain wave machines man, those are from the aliens they control and the flyijng saucers.. DUH!

Vick will plead guilty to keep them from PROVING his guilt, and say he took it because he had to.

Well Blacksheep, you are about as wrong and uninformed as a man can be. Your conviction stats are all wrong. The Feds 95% conviction rate comes from those cases that actually go to trial. It is true however, that 90% of those indicted will elect to accept a plea deal.

Where you are wrong again is the motivation for a plea offer. This is done solely to save time...period. There are hundreds of federal cases awaiting trial. If they actually went to trial, the backlog would be considerable. If Mike Vick were innocent, he would not throw his career away on a plea. If he were innocent, he would take it to court. Any INNOCENT man would. The very reason Mike is considering the plea is because he knows the case against him is very strong.

I would never say that no prosecution cases are racially motivated. At the state and local level, I have no doubt that there are good ol boy clubs that keep their friends out of harms way. But the feds are different. They absolutely do not care who you are. The convicted and sent to jail MARTHA STEWART for God's sake. She is 100 times bigger that Mike Vick will EVER be...to millions upon millions of women of ALL races.

And they sent her to jail.

So please stop playing the race card.

As for the plea, Vick is not going to avoid jail. Most legal opinions say a year would be a victory for him.

Good points mike_tiger. Brett didn't show any compassion at all for those vicodins. He's a dirty vicodin killer and I'm glad someone finally made the connection for me.

I don't know why I'm taking the time to say it, cause it's been said time and again: there is outrage over all the stuff you mentioned. However, this is a sports discussion board. Thus, the focus on Vick's crimes. There are several good political discussion boards where you can force your psuedo-intellectual arguments down people's throats. From your ramblings, I'm thinking Daily Kos or DemocraticUnderground. Bye now.

Absolutely glloydd95. But BLACKSHEEP understands this. He doesn't buy his own press. This isn't about being right or wrong, but about irritating people. My guess is that if he were not anonymous, he would never "own" the opinion he's peddling here. The guy is plenty bothered by all sorts of things, and he wants to touch as many nerves as he can.

MIke tiger--
What's this thread about again? Oh yeah, Mike Vick. That's why Mike Vick is the topic here.

If this thread were about starving children and people not helping them, then we would be voicing our opinions on that subject.

Let's stick to the topic here.

"I don't know about jail time for him. Every time I turn on the internet machine,I hear a different story.My guess is that he gets a huge fine and probation." (Beer n Drums)

The feds don't do probation for this kind of case, at least not in lieu of jail time.

Here in Richmond the past 24 hours, the rumors have been that the negotiation is that Mr. Vick wants less than a year in prison (which might have some hope for an much earlier parole, since it's less than a year), and the prosecutor wants one to one and a half years. In any case, the judge, Henry Hudson, gets to make the final call, and he has a reputation that he doesn't play favorites for (or makes example of, for that matter) the accused celebrity that crosses his courtroom.

BTW - that sentence WILL be influenced by how Mr. Vick acts after he pleads (if he cops one) and when the sentencing happens. If Mr. Vick acts all cocky and says he was really innocent and didn't do anything wrong, those number WILL go up.