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08:31 AM ET 07.22 | Is Alexander Ovechkin merely LeBron James on skates? On the ice, Alex Ovechkin remains title-less, too. For all of the criticism we fire at "King James," are we hypocritical in not comparing and taking aim at "Alexander the Great?" Regular-season success simply hasn't translated into championships. In fact, the closest either of these men has come is the Cavs getting swept in the Finals. Remember, Ovie's led his team to exactly ONE playoff series victory. ... [What's also compelling] about this comparison is that both have a rival who has found success -- and help. Sidney Crosby's Cup run with the Penguins was absolutely aided by Evgeni Malkin.

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July 22, 2010  08:49 AM ET

What more "help" does he need, he was one of the best centers in the league feeding him the puck. Not that he would even pass the puck to the extra "help".

July 22, 2010  08:51 AM ET

Sorry, he HAS one of the best centers in the league feeding him the puck.

July 22, 2010  08:54 AM ET

It boils down to a few things for AO.
1. The South East Division for the past few years has been the worst or close to worst Div in the NHL. Allowing the Caps to put up great numbers in the regular season and gear up more towards the big out of division games (Pens, Devils, Rangers, etc).
2. No grit. Every team needs grit especially come playoff time. Why do you think the Flyers were able to beat the Habs? The Flyers came out, hit hard, finished their checks and out physicalled a smaller, less skilled team.
3. Coaching. Over the past three post seasons the Caps coach has not shown he has the ability to make changes when his game plan isn't working.
4. Goaltending and defense have been the Achilles Heel for the Caps recently. Scoring 4-5 goals a game is great, but when the other team is also scoring 2-3, if they figure out a way to shut you down and still score.
5. They believe their own hype. We saw this from the amount the Caps ran their mouths in the playoffs this past year, they actually believe they are the BEST team. As with anything, when you get to the point that you are not willing to accept that you might have to actually try, you will lose.

I see another top 3 finish for the Caps in the East again this year simply by matter of their division. Going farther in the payoffs will take them as a team finding that "extra" thing every team that can go on to win has found.

July 22, 2010  08:59 AM ET

cj you could have just listed #4......with a very good playoff goalie, OV would already have a ring.

July 22, 2010  09:01 AM ET

They did have an "MVP" goalie.

July 22, 2010  09:01 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

cj you could have just listed #4......with a very good playoff goalie, OV would already have a ring.

With a very good playoff goalie, everyone could have a ring. Hell the Flyers could have had the last 10 if they had a goalie.

July 22, 2010  09:15 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

With a very good playoff goalie, everyone could have a ring. Hell the Flyers could have had the last 10 if they had a goalie.

thats not true....you need more than just a very good goalie......

July 22, 2010  09:20 AM ET

Let the bashing begin! Sigh.

He will, no doubt, in my opinion, earn his Cup one day.

July 22, 2010  09:21 AM ET

I just picked up the new Ovechkin model iPhone 4. It's got a few bugs. I have to keep it on vibrate cause it's got no rings.

July 22, 2010  09:23 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Let the bashing begin! Sigh.He will, no doubt, in my opinion, earn his Cup one day.

And this is not directed to any of the previous comments, btw. I just can predict where this thread is going to go. ;)

July 22, 2010  09:38 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

I just picked up the new Ovechkin model iPhone 4. It's got a few bugs. I have to keep it on vibrate cause it's got no rings.

Wow! LMAO. Best comment so far this morning on any thread. As far as this subject, Ovie is going to get plenty of criticism until he wins a ring. It is rather interesting to note that so many folks say "he" hasn't won a ring. Hockey is a team sport and no matter how great individual players may be it takes hitting on all 8 cylinders to win the Cup. I still say the reason the Caps, good as their roster is, haven't gone further in the last few years is that most of their talent has refused to make the individual sacrifice to play good, hard, solid defense every night. Goaltending seems to be their excuse, not the reason, for their failures.

July 22, 2010  09:39 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Let the bashing begin! Sigh.He will, no doubt, in my opinion, earn his Cup one day.

We all know that the name of this game is to win, but this nonsense about not winning a championship defining a player is absurd to say the least. It takes more than on player to win one, so to bash Crosby for having "help", if that be what''s coming....is even more absurd. The greatness of a player is not only how that player plays, but how the team works around him and because of him. Let's face it Fleury and Malkin and the whole team were part of that Cup win. Especially in this game. As WEAPON X noted, the Flyers...and every other team would have had a great goalie. But you need more than that...or The Rangers would have one also.

July 22, 2010  09:47 AM ET
QUOTE(#13):

We all know that the name of this game is to win, but this nonsense about not winning a championship defining a player is absurd to say the least. It takes more than on player to win one, so to bash Crosby for having "help", if that be what''s coming....is even more absurd. The greatness of a player is not only how that player plays, but how the team works around him and because of him. Let's face it Fleury and Malkin and the whole team were part of that Cup win. Especially in this game. As WEAPON X noted, the Flyers...and every other team would have had a great goalie. But you need more than that...or The Rangers would have one also.

I agree with both you and Slapshot's posts. Couldn't agree more in fact, but there will be those who bash those named in the article...well, just to bash them, including Ovechkin. No, I don't think it is deserved. It is a team sport. If there are holes, and they are exposed, you won't get very far, especially in the playoffs. Even the Pens' learned that last season. Crosby OR Ovechkin can't carry the team on their backs. I was suprised that the Caps didn't make many moves in the UFA season, but maybe I missed something (didn't follow their moves much during that time, so pleading ignorance). But there wasn't much out there.

July 22, 2010  09:48 AM ET

One of the measures of greatness is if they player can make his team play better. I think (I'm biased of course) that Sid encourages other Pens to play better. I don't see Ovie as being that kind of leader. I do not follow basketball at all so I don't know if the same could be said about Lebron.

July 22, 2010  10:01 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

thats not true....you need more than just a very good goalie......

Nope, 1986, Montreal Canadiens had no offense or defense, just Patrick Roy.

July 22, 2010  10:01 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

One of the measures of greatness is if they player can make his team play better. I think (I'm biased of course) that Sid encourages other Pens to play better. I don't see Ovie as being that kind of leader. I do not follow basketball at all so I don't know if the same could be said about Lebron.

I don't care if Ovechkin is the 2nd coming of Messier...you need the team too...and the Caps do not have the team yet. All of those ingredients...grit (as The flyers proved) goaltending, leadership...are needed. Not one guy...this isn't the NBA.

July 22, 2010  10:04 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

One of the measures of greatness is if they player can make his team play better. I think (I'm biased of course) that Sid encourages other Pens to play better. I don't see Ovie as being that kind of leader. I do not follow basketball at all so I don't know if the same could be said about Lebron.

As a Caps fan since the beginning, I agree with your comments about Crosby being a great leader who encourages even better efforts from his team mates. Ovie, great as he is, is not the same type of leader in my opinion. That's not criticism, just a fact. I think some of it may come from the fact that English is a language he's had to learn from scratch in the last 5 years and make the rather big adjustment to living in North America (of course gazillions of dollars helps with that!). In any event, the Caps need someone (on the team, not a coach) who calls guys to account and challenges them to play beyond their capabilities. Crosby does that in Pittsburgh, the Caps have yet to find it consistently on their squad.

July 22, 2010  10:04 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Nope, 1986, Montreal Canadiens had no offense or defense, just Patrick Roy.

Guy Carbonneau/Chelios/gainey/Claude Lemiuex/Larry robinson
Not too bad. They did have a lot of role players.
That's actually the point

July 22, 2010  10:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#19):

Guy Carbonneau/Chelios/gainey/Claude Lemiuex/Larry robinsonNot too bad. They did have a lot of role players.That's actually the point

Mats Naslund also chipped in with 110 points.

 
July 22, 2010  10:29 AM ET
QUOTE(#20):

Mats Naslund also chipped in with 110 points.

right....chipped in...how the heck did I miss him....

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