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Does Haden spell trouble for Kiffin at USC?

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07:34 AM ET 07.25 | With the announcement that NBC Notre Dame analyst Pat Haden will return to USC to become the school's new athletic director, head coach Lane Kiffin's tenure in Los Angeles doesn't look to be longterm. So in comes Pat Haden, who will right the ship and keep it tight. But can Kiffin work in that type of environment? Let's be honest, Kiffin is young and brash. He has his own way of doing things. He believes that he is the program.

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July 25, 2010  08:12 AM ET

It will be tough to have a solid win/loss record when you have to play by the rules.

July 25, 2010  09:12 AM ET
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It will be tough to have a solid win/loss record when you have to play by the rules.

That would require Lane to have a working knowledge of the rules.

July 25, 2010  10:02 AM ET

Kiffin is truly hated by many. Way too cocky. Gotta win something first, Lane. Your name only takes you so far.

July 25, 2010  10:03 AM ET
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That would require Lane to have a working knowledge of the rules.

And make a concious decision to follow them.

July 25, 2010  10:15 AM ET
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Gotta win something first, Lane. Your name only takes you so far.

Or lose something first. Give the guy, a chance to win or lose.

July 25, 2010  10:52 AM ET
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Or lose something first. Give the guy, a chance to win or lose.

True, knowing that if he does not win, that will make another so so record on his resume as a Head Coach. You can only live off your history as a Coordinator so long.
After being fired in the NFL, and bolting at Tenn., Kiffin has used up his options. It is win and win big at USC, or????

July 25, 2010  10:58 AM ET
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True, knowing that if he does not win, that will make another so so record on his resume as a Head Coach. You can only live off your history as a Coordinator so long. After being fired in the NFL, and bolting at Tenn., Kiffin has used up his options. It is win and win big at USC, or????

I don't know. The fact that he was handed a program only to have sanctions imposed before he coached a game might buy him a little more time.

July 25, 2010  11:33 AM ET
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I don't know. The fact that he was handed a program only to have sanctions imposed before he coached a game might buy him a little more time.

Some. But he is not taking over an empty cupboard and starting from scratch. It is still all about winning .

July 25, 2010  11:35 AM ET
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Some. But he is not taking over an empty cupboard and starting from scratch. It is still all about winning .

Agreed. He won't get unlimited rope, but this might buy him a year or two that he wouldn't have gotten otherwise.

July 25, 2010  11:57 AM ET
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Agreed. He won't get unlimited rope, but this might buy him a year or two that he wouldn't have gotten otherwise.

I definitely agree with that. The only thing that could curtail that would be if there are major clashes between him and Haden. Judging from the post, that could be very likely.

July 25, 2010  12:34 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

True, knowing that if he does not win, that will make another so so record on his resume as a Head Coach. You can only live off your history as a Coordinator so long. After being fired in the NFL, and bolting at Tenn., Kiffin has used up his options. It is win and win big at USC, or????

The next stop on his bridge-burning tour could be the UFL. It will be interesting to see what lasts longer, Kiffin's tenure at USC or the United Football League.

July 25, 2010  12:37 PM ET
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H ell he just pissed off Jeff Fisher by taking his RB coach as his OC and didn't even have the courtesy to let him know about it until after he gets the guys commitment. Guy is totally without class.

I saw that, unbelievable. Completely classless.

July 25, 2010  01:02 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

True, knowing that if he does not win, that will make another so so record on his resume as a Head Coach. You can only live off your history as a Coordinator so long. After being fired in the NFL, and bolting at Tenn., Kiffin has used up his options. It is win and win big at USC, or????

50yearfan, good point and you are so right, when you say that Kiffin is on the hot seat (short leash)

July 25, 2010  01:17 PM ET
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50yearfan, good point and you are so right, when you say that Kiffin is on the hot seat (short leash)

A really, really short one...

July 25, 2010  01:31 PM ET

I am a USC fan. Winning was always the criteria that the team or coach were judged. Haden is going to have to change that to make winning while playing by the rules the main objective. I think Kiffin is of the "win at all costs" mentality and so I expect he'll bolt USC in less than 3 years.

July 25, 2010  01:42 PM ET

Who really knows. Again Kiffen is proving he has a major lack of character by pulling the stunt he did to get the Titans RB coach just one week before the start of their NFL training camp.

This just didn't happen at the spur of the moment. Oh, last Friday I contacted Kennedy Pola and right away he accepted my offer so I then called coach Fisher on Saturday. What a piece this guy is. He had to be communicating to Pola way in advance of the Friday offer.

If I were Pat Haden, I would come down hard on Kiffen. Fisher is a respected coach in the NFL and his word means a lot to NFL fans. For him to blast Kiffen the way he did shows the Kiffen is a behind the back character who puts his interests first in an unprofessional manner. USC needs to take a hard look at this one, because the fallout on this one rests fully with the university and Haden. Too bad Haden recommended him in the first place.

I say fire him. USC is out of the bowl picture for at least two years and recruiting will be tough. I say build from scratch starting now. USC will always have a negative image with Kiffen as the coach.

July 25, 2010  01:56 PM ET
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I say fire him. USC is out of the bowl picture for at least two years and recruiting will be tough. I say build from scratch starting now. USC will always have a negative image with Kiffen as the coach.

There's one flaw with that argument. If you fire Kiffen before he's even coached one game at USC, you risk making him look somewhat sympathetic as a result and that you're making him the scapegoat for Carroll's transgressions. That's not the way to start out a career as an AD. It would be better to let him make his own mistakes, so you can fire him because of that. Also, there are many donors that will not appreciate going starting from scratch in any way, shape, or form. Haden has a delicate balance between creating a program the right way and appeasing boosters who just want to see a winning team on the field. It's not going to be easy, but the way Kiffen's been acting so far, Haden may have the chance to dump him sooner than you think.

It's pretty clear that Kiffen's tactics will backfire on him in the long run

July 25, 2010  02:12 PM ET
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There's one flaw with that argument. If you fire Kiffen before he's even coached one game at USC, you risk making him look somewhat sympathetic as a result and that you're making him the scapegoat for Carroll's transgressions. That's not the way to start out a career as an AD. It would be better to let him make his own mistakes, so you can fire him because of that. Also, there are many donors that will not appreciate going starting from scratch in any way, shape, or form. Haden has a delicate balance between creating a program the right way and appeasing boosters who just want to see a winning team on the field. It's not going to be easy, but the way Kiffen's been acting so far, Haden may have the chance to dump him sooner than you think.It's pretty clear that Kiffen's tactics will backfire on him in the long run

Good point, but what if Kiffin, starts off with a winning record and does a good job in his first two or three years as HC, then what? If Kiffin, (I know, if is a big word) toes the line and bring USC a couple of winning (10-2) seasons, then, he will stick around for awhile. Remember that winning, will solve alot of problems.

July 25, 2010  02:24 PM ET
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The answer to the title question is "no".

Huh??

 
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