Chargers: Ship has sailed without Jackson, McNeill

That's why the Chargers will never reach the next level.

Spoken by the man who let Drew Brees get away. He's lucky he's in a weak division, and even so, he could get overhauled by the Raiders this year.

How can I be the first comment? Is everyone sleeping in this morning after staying up to watch the Saints?

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Originally posted 08:56 AM ET  09.10 by S DOT HITS DA SPOT

That's why the Chargers will never reach the next level.

I agree...but you gotta love that he isn't gonna let some "me-first" players still under contract hold the team hostage. Really I don't Vincent Jackson is that one piece that put them over the top though either... If it was Rivers however the deal would have been done.

Rats, got beat out at the last minute.

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Originally posted 09:18 AM ET  09.10 by Swauny Jones

Stuff like this is what will give the Division to a team like the Raiders or Chiefs... I know I know don't laugh... it's very possible...

I agree but as a chargers fan no a NFL fan i particular it is rediculas.. these guys get paid millions a year to play about 16 games + training camp ... if they think that they are that special as to name there own price they are wrong ... something is only as valuable as you are willing to pay for it and that goes for players to.

Spoken by the man who let Drew Brees get away. He's lucky he's in a weak division, and even so, he could get overhauled by the Raiders this year.

The Raiders are looking strong. Keep subtracting from your team Spanos and there just may be a Return to Excellence in the Bay Area this season.

Both of those guys are underpaid (I nearly choked on that word) in comparison to other players at the same skill level, but they're not going to get top five contracts with the labor situation looming.

The ship has sailed without the Chargers. When that ship pulls into Arlington, TX in Feb., you won't be on it.

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Originally posted 02:03 PM ET  09.10 by -ripper-

He's got two DUI's on his record. He's been suspended by the league. His hands are great but his judgment sucks.

Yeah, I think you'd have to be nuts to give him top 5 money for a few reasons, but the best one, the one that would be my main reason if I had Spanos' job, is that I don't think for one second he won't screw up again and again, and eventually he just won't be there. He's just another million dollar skill set with a ten cent head.

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Originally posted 09:04 AM ET  09.10 by I Must Break You

... Really I don't Vincent Jackson is that one piece that put them over the top though either... If it was Rivers however the deal would have been done.

Well stated - on both counts!

Wished more NFL Owners and GMs would do the same thing as the Chargers are doing here... There are always players out there who will play because they love the competition more than they do themselves

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Originally posted 10:51 PM ET  09.10 by Wowowee!!

Wished more NFL Owners and GMs would do the same thing as the Chargers are doing here... There are always players out there who will play because they love the competition more than they do themselves

That is the point I was getting at. These guys are only going to be paid as much as people will pay to watch them. If there is no money to pay them they won't be able to be paid as much.

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Originally posted 02:03 PM ET  09.10 by -ripper-

I agree with both of those statements. Plus, VJ is one DUI away from a year's suspension. He has two strikes already. This is a guy who has to have Rivers pick him up the day of the Jets playoff game, because he got busted for a suspended license. He's a beast on the field, yes, but he's also a distraction. He kicked the challenge flag in a playoff game at a crucial time. He's got two DUI's on his record. He's been suspended by the league. His hands are great but his judgment sucks. McNeill is another story. I want that guy to get a long term deal, and I think he will. VJ's history. And I'm fine with that. If the Raiders, Chiefs, or Broncos win the division it won't be because VJ's gone. Rivers has lots of great weapons to resort to, and the offense will put up solid numbers yet again this year. Mathews is an upgrade over LT at 31 year's old. If they don't win the Division it will be because of the D, which still isn't good enough.

Ripper, you really know your Charger stuff. Why does Norv Turner continue to run Sproles into the line near the goal-line like last night and the Baltimore game last year? Any guesses?