Firing looming in Pittsburgh?

Fire the cheap owner who pockets all the revenue sharing money

Too bad they fired their guy in AA that just won a championship. This is why the Pirates suck.

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unfortunately, you can't fire the owner...just like the yankees, the owner of the pirates is playing within the rules that are in place. so, nothing can be done until the rules are changed.from a business perspective, its genius...i read somewhere where the ownership is making a steady $20-$25MM per year. I'd sign up for that...

If he invested in the team the team woul be worth more. He could leverage that and make more than that in interest....but maybe not by much...

Please, please, please hire Dave Clark as manager. He used to play in Pittsburgh. Right now he is Houston's 3rd base coach and has to be the absolute worst 3rd base coach there has ever been. He managed in the minors for a while and had 2 championships while doing so. According to players and team personnel, he was an outstanding manager. Please bring Dave Clark back to Pittsburgh and save the Astros many runs they lose each season because of him. Did I say Please?

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Originally posted 10:17 AM ET  10.01 by AllStarz Ruinating the Nation

If he invested in the team the team woul be worth more. He could leverage that and make more than that in interest....but maybe not by much...

Winning != Money

Just ask Donald Sterling (owner of the L.A. Clippers) if that works. For years he made more money than his cross town rivals by being frugal and putting a losing team on the court.

Or how about Wayne Huizenga who spent the money to make the Florida Marlins good enough to win the World Series, only to have to mortgage the whole team the next year because he couldn't cover the costs.

Ask the NY Rangers or the Washington Redskins if spending a lot of money of good players works?

I'd love to see the Pirates get better, but they have to do it right. They have to rebuild their farm teams and draft. If they do it right, it's a 5 year project (minimum) until they start to see results in the majors.

JR is simply misunderstood and a definite keeper! No one could possibly lose over 300 games in 3-years and remain this affable!

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Originally posted 10:32 AM ET  10.01 by abmoraz

Winning != MoneyJust ask Donald Sterling (owner of the L.A. Clippers) if that works. For years he made more money than his cross town rivals by being frugal and putting a losing team on the court.Or how about Wayne Huizenga who spent the money to make the Florida Marlins good enough to win the World Series, only to have to mortgage the whole team the next year because he couldn't cover the costs.Ask the NY Rangers or the Washington Redskins if spending a lot of money of good players works? I'd love to see the Pirates get better, but they have to do it right. They have to rebuild their farm teams and draft. If they do it right, it's a 5 year project (minimum) until they start to see results in the majors.

The Pirates have a fan base that is not showing up. A Good team would put cans in seats. The teams you mention have fan bases that are so loyal, well the Rangers specificly, that win or lose people come.
i was talking about the value of the team, principle, increasing, and particularly for teams like KC and Pitt who have historic fan bases, I believe a better product would increase revenue.

and the Marlins overspent to get a fanbase, but then stabbed them all in the back by selling the whole team, twice. Now they are run for parts. That has to be real appealing to a fanbase. Especially considering with minimal effort they could compete in the NL East...

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Originally posted 10:38 AM ET  10.01 by jse17

JR is simply misunderstood and a definite keeper! No one could possibly lose over 300 games in 3-years and remain this affable!

Xanex?

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Originally posted 09:15 AM ET  10.01 by High Plains Drifter.

Fire the cheap owner who pockets all the revenue sharing money

DING! DING! DING!! Worst, at least one of the worst, owners in all of sports.

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Originally posted 09:40 AM ET  10.01 by Stillers-Pens-Bucs-Pitt

Too bad they fired their guy in AA that just won a championship. This is why the Pirates suck.

Seriously!! WTF was that all about?? He was too ambitious I guess. Maybe wanted to win too much.

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Originally posted 10:44 AM ET  10.01 by AllStarz Ruinating the Nation

The Pirates have a fan base that is not showing up. A Good team would put cans in seats. The teams you mention have fan bases that are so loyal, well the Rangers specificly, that win or lose people come.i was talking about the value of the team, principle, increasing, and particularly for teams like KC and Pitt who have historic fan bases, I believe a better product would increase revenue.

It would. Fans in the Burgh are dying for a good team. 18 freaking losing seasons in a row will demoralize even the most die-hard fan bases.

Plus you have people like me who refuse to put a dime in that **** owners pockets and simply will not go to games period!

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Originally posted 10:44 AM ET  10.01 by AllStarz Ruinating the Nation

The Pirates have a fan base that is not showing up. A Good team would put cans in seats. The teams you mention have fan bases that are so loyal, well the Rangers specificly, that win or lose people come.i was talking about the value of the team, principle, increasing, and particularly for teams like KC and Pitt who have historic fan bases, I believe a better product would increase revenue.

Agree. The Pirates have one of the nicest parks in Baseball. I went there twice when I was home in PA. To bad people cant go and see it. But after 18 losing seasons and the product that is on the field that is the answer to the question.

I dont think it is the mangers fault look what he has to work, with the pitching is awful. However I think they need a veteran manger to develop these young players. All in all still love the Pirates though.

Why not include Neal Huntingdon in the list, he was the one who traded away all the all stars so as to invest in the future, I think my great grandson, who hasn't been born yet is being scrutinized. Maybe if I send him to India he will have a better chance.
The Pirates did get better at the end of the year when all the 'kids' came on board.
Back to basics and fill the seats.

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Originally posted 12:16 PM ET  10.01 by dasteelers1

I dont think it is the mangers fault look what he has to work, with the pitching is awful. However I think they need a veteran manger to develop these young players. All in all still love the Pirates though.

It's not all the mamager's fault, but Russel sucks and is about as exciting as watching paint dry or watching grass grow. He needs to go!

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Originally posted 11:45 AM ET  10.01 by LGP: Pensational!

DING! DING! DING!! Worst, at least one of the worst, owners in all of sports.

The worst owner award would have to go to the IDIOT owner of Kansas City. But I'll give you this that the MORON that owns the Pirates is just about as bad.

So Pittsburgh's owner and GM give the manager absolutely NOTHING to work with. They trade off any minor league talent they have (and god forbid someone talented actually gets to the majors) and they expect any manager to compete? Apparently the owner has decided to stop taking his medication for his delusions. Shame really. The Pirates used to be a proud franchise. Now they are a double-a team at best. At least Pittsburgh has the Steelers.

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Originally posted 01:07 PM ET  10.01 by LGP: Pensational!

It's not all the mamager's fault, but Russel sucks and is about as exciting as watching paint dry or watching grass grow. He needs to go!

Who would you bring or who would want to come. I would be nice to have a Torre but I know tha is a wish. The Pirates should do what Baltimore did. But until they get some decent pitching the Pirates are not gonna do anything.