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08:23 AM ET 10.07 | Andy Van Slyke took the occasion of a season-ticket holder event to inform president Frank Coonelly about his interest in managing the Pirates. "I know that I'm a good coach. The players responded very well to me in Detroit [from 2006-09]. I know the game well enough, I've been on winning and losing teams," said the five-time Gold Glove-winning center fielder with the Pirates from 1987-94. "But I've got a couple of things going against me for anyone that would hire me: For one, I've never managed in the minor leagues. But there have been very successful [major league] managers who never managed in the minor leagues."

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

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October 7, 2010  08:24 AM ET

"Jim, the smoking section is way up there..."

October 7, 2010  08:29 AM ET

The Buccos could do a lot worse than Slick. Hell, look at the corpse they had for the the last 3 years.

October 7, 2010  08:30 AM ET

...and to make me an even better canidate, I am a loser. I know a girl in St Louis who works on his teeth, she said he is a 100% pure grade A p.r.i.c.k....even the Pirates do not want this moron

October 7, 2010  08:38 AM ET

Maybe they could get a volunteer from the stands every game to be "Manager of the Day"? It would save a manager's salary and help maximize the bottom line! Hey, they could do it with players, stadium staff, hot dog salesmen.............this could work!

October 7, 2010  08:46 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

...and to make me an even better canidate, I am a loser.

OK, Mr. canidate, that's all you had to say.

October 7, 2010  09:13 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

...and to make me an even better canidate, I am a loser. I know a girl in St Louis who works on his teeth, she said he is a 100% pure grade A p.r.i.c.k....even the Pirates do not want this moron

What you want some nancy candy arse skipper controlling a team that doesnt even care to try to win anymore?
Bag that.
Van Slyke might not of won any public opinion awards but he knew his stuff- he did a good job as 1st base coach in Detroit- and honestly- I wish we still had the guy.
If the Pirates get him- I think he would be a catalyst in that club house as he isnt gonna put up with crap. In Chicago Ozzy being Ozzy is a normal thing. Not many thought of him as a "nice guy" when he was base coach with Leyland back with the Marlins and he helped change things in Chicago when he got there cause he told you how it was and would be a jerk when he had to. Old school. Just like Van Slyke.

Come on man- its baseball, what you want him to talk about his bloody "feelings"? Its not Cricket damnit...

October 7, 2010  09:27 AM ET

Hey it's the Pirates, why not give him a shot.

October 7, 2010  09:48 AM ET

really good player Van Slyke ...I'd give em a shot always like his fiery attitude....played for Leyland and LaRussa ...if he doesn't know what the deal is by now he never will...give him the job....

October 7, 2010  09:50 AM ET

They should hire ex-Pirate-current-Astros-3rd-base-coach Dave Clark.

October 7, 2010  09:53 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Maybe they could get a volunteer from the stands every game to be "Manager of the Day"? It would save a manager's salary and help maximize the bottom line! Hey, they could do it with players, stadium staff, hot dog salesmen.............this could work!

You just might be onto something there. Think of how it could boost attendence as well. Oh ****, can the Nutjobs see this?

October 7, 2010  09:54 AM ET

Andy Van Slyke wants to be manager??? why not. LOL me too, I could use the money.

October 7, 2010  09:55 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

What you want some nancy candy arse skipper controlling a team that doesnt even care to try to win anymore?Bag that.Van Slyke might not of won any public opinion awards but he knew his stuff- he did a good job as 1st base coach in Detroit- and honestly- I wish we still had the guy. If the Pirates get him- I think he would be a catalyst in that club house as he isnt gonna put up with crap. In Chicago Ozzy being Ozzy is a normal thing. Not many thought of him as a "nice guy" when he was base coach with Leyland back with the Marlins and he helped change things in Chicago when he got there cause he told you how it was and would be a jerk when he had to. Old school. Just like Van Slyke.Come on man- its baseball, what you want him to talk about his bloody "feelings"? Its not Cricket damnit...

Excellent post. And I couldn't agree more. The Pirates need an asskicker in there!

October 7, 2010  09:58 AM ET

"But I've got a couple of things going against me for anyone that would hire me: For one, I've never managed in the minor leagues."

Actually Andy, that might make you even more appealing to the Pirates owners. They make bank by not winning. It's disgusting. There's no better value seat in baseball than on the first base line at PNC Park watching the sun set over the Allegheny. Especially if your there to see your team (NOT the Buccos) -- the dugouts are reversed and the visitors are on the 1B line.

October 7, 2010  09:59 AM ET

The lemonade man at PNC park should get a shot. Anyone know who I'm talking about? He's gotta be in his 70's and his LEMONAAAADE yell is oftentimes more invigorating than the play on the field.

October 7, 2010  10:02 AM ET

I think t would be a good move. Gives something for the fans to cheer about and remember the glory days of the Pirates. Plus, he has played under two of the best managers and has now coached under Leyand for a number of years. True, he has not cut his teeth down in the minors, but look at the team he would be managing. I think it would be a great fit for the city and team. This coming from a Mets fan who watched Slick kill us in the late 80s and early 90s.

October 7, 2010  10:28 AM ET

Of course, this is the Pirates we're talking about...you know, the ones that fired Class AA Altoona mamanger Mike Walbeck less than 2 weeks after he won the Eastern League championship. Who knows what the hell management is actually thinking.


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10273/1091579-100.stm

October 7, 2010  10:28 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Excellent post. And I couldn't agree more. The Pirates need an asskicker in there!

Thanks
I really think that the classic manager cut isnt gonna be what does it in Pitsburg. I remember one day when Gibby was basecoach and he went into the locker room and UNLOADED on the guys- almost came to suspensions- but it got the guys going. Something Trammel couldnt do himself. But Gibby just didnt give a ****. He is another dearly missed in Detroit- but he didnt manage in the minors. He came as base/bench coach for the Tigs when we hired Tram as manager- he stuck it out and now is managing as well. The minors is not a 100% lithmus test for management. It takes the right guy for the right team to make it work- and there is gonna have to be a few molds broken to get the Pirates back together... Slick might be it...

October 7, 2010  10:35 AM ET
QUOTE(#22):

ThanksI really think that the classic manager cut isnt gonna be what does it in Pitsburg. I remember one day when Gibby was basecoach and he went into the locker room and UNLOADED on the guys- almost came to suspensions- but it got the guys going. Something Trammel couldnt do himself. But Gibby just didnt give a ****. He is another dearly missed in Detroit- but he didnt manage in the minors. He came as base/bench coach for the Tigs when we hired Tram as manager- he stuck it out and now is managing as well. The minors is not a 100% lithmus test for management. It takes the right guy for the right team to make it work- and there is gonna have to be a few molds broken to get the Pirates back together... Slick might be it...

True dat. Apparently John Russel had a lot of success as a minor league manager and he was awful at this level. The Pirates finally have some good, young talent in McCutcheon, Alvarez, Tabata and Walker to build around. Get some actual pitching in there and with the right manager, they may be able to at least have a freakin winning season.

October 7, 2010  10:36 AM ET
QUOTE(#23):

True dat. Apparently John Russel had a lot of success as a minor league manager and he was awful at this level. The Pirates finally have some good, young talent in McCutcheon, Alvarez, Tabata and Walker to build around. Get some actual pitching in there and with the right manager, they may be able to at least have a freakin winning season.

rest assured they will trade that young talent a few years before free agency as they have done in the past.

 
October 7, 2010  10:49 AM ET

I'm not a fan of hiring 1st/3rd base coaches with NO minor or major league managing experience. Many of the managers nowadays were catchers, and this is because they were immersed in ALL aspects of the game when they played it - pitch calling, positioning players, all of the infield/outfield situational play, how to work batters, controlling runners, etc. -- I'm an advocate of the Pirates hiring Ted Simmons. He caught many years in the big leagues. He was in the front office briefly in Pittsburgh, leaving for health issues. He then served in a player development roll for both St. Louis and San Diego. He was the bench coach in 2008 for Milwaukee, and this year in San Diego. This man has been successful wherever he has gone. He is INCREDIBLY intelligent and knowledgeable with respect to the game of baseball. I'd love to have him in the dugout for the Pirates...(and I'd love for the BEST switch-hitting catcher in the HISTORY of MLB to talk to Doumit at length...hopefully something would rub off :P)

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