They're already wondering about Carlyle in L.A.

Whadda ya mean "already?" We've been wondering about Randy for years.

And here I thought the Pens were off to a slow start offensively.

Still too early for any team to panic or for any coach's job to be on the line.

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Originally posted 09:55 AM ET  10.12 by Canuck eh?

Whadda ya mean "already?" We've been wondering about Randy for years.

I always wonderd about his Norris.

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Me to...How does he beat out Potvin Robinson etc Must have been a Pittsburgh sympathy vote.

I think he fished out 80 or so points. But still.

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Originally posted 11:30 AM ET  10.12 by Hank Kingsley

I think he fished out 80 or so points. But still.

He shouldn't have won, just like the goalie on today's thread!

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Me to...How does he beat out Potvin Robinson etc Must have been a Pittsburgh sympathy vote.

Why does it have to be something like that? Potvin and Robinson played on much better teams, yet Randy acquited himself nicely.

Carlyle- 16G 67A 83Pts 136 PIM 2nd on team in scoring

Potvin- 20G 56A 76Pts 104PIM 5th on team in scoring

Robin- 12G 38A 50Pts 37PIM 8th on team in scoring

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Originally posted 11:40 AM ET  10.12 by kingeraaa

He shouldn't have won

Who should have won then?

You can always tell a Pens fan, but you can't tell them much...

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Originally posted 11:52 AM ET  10.12 by LGP: Pensational!

Who should have won then?

Doug Wilson Langway or Robinson off the top of my head

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Originally posted 12:12 PM ET  10.12 by Hank Kingsley

You can always tell a Pens fan, but you can't tell them much...

Well, who should have won then?

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Originally posted 12:13 PM ET  10.12 by Swamp Dragon

Doug Wilson Langway or Robinson off the top of my head

Look at Robinson's numbers from that year! 50 points? Seriously? I didn't look up Langway or Wilson so I don't know about them.

Wilson- 12G 39A 51 Pts 80PIM

Langway 11G 34A 45Pts 53 PIM

So far the only one even close in points is Potvin. So please explain how Carlyle is so undeserving.

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Originally posted 12:16 PM ET  10.12 by LGP: Pensational!

Well, who should have won then?

Well apparently Carlyle won but he you have to admit is the weakest d-man winner since Harry Howell won it in 1967

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Originally posted 12:17 PM ET  10.12 by LGP: Pensational!

Look at Robinson's numbers from that year! 50 points? Seriously? I didn't look up Langway or Wilson so I don't know about them.

It's not a scoring title it's a best defenceman trophy

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No offence intended LGP. In some cases players are rewarded to get to get a team some recognition. I have the same opinion about Rod Langway.

Better not get into Rick Kehoe's Lady Byng trophy win the same year

Actually I have a problem with the Lady Byng and the Masterton trophy .They are not awarded in the
way they are intended and the Norris is not much more than a Scoring title (although in recent years there have been exceptions)there should be a defensive defenseman trophy after all there is one for Forwards (the Selke) and maybe a playmaker award for most assists in a season (the Gretzky??)

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Originally posted 11:40 AM ET  10.12 by kingeraaa

He shouldn't have won, just like the goalie on today's thread!

Who Marty Brodeur ????

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Originally posted 12:24 PM ET  10.12 by Swamp Dragon

It's not a scoring title it's a best defenceman trophy

Since when? Defensively Mike Green is a seive yet he's a regular nominee. Paul Coffey? Not exactly a defensive stalwart yet he has 3.

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Originally posted 12:29 PM ET  10.12 by Swamp Dragon

Better not get into Rick Kehoe's Lady Byng trophy win the same year

Thems fightin words!!! ;)