Irish manage to keep four-star DE

How did they ever manage?

You gotta have the DL and OL.

Number one graduation rate in the country, 8 years running i believe, smart kid.

Any coach that fails to graduate 90% of his players should in some way be limited or punished when it comes to recruiting. New NCAA rule, what do you think.

QUOTE(#8):

Originally posted 09:51 AM ET  11.03 by VanByTheRiver

Number one graduation rate in the country, 8 years running i believe, smart kid.Any coach that fails to graduate 90% of his players should in some way be limited or punished when it comes to recruiting. New NCAA rule, what do you think.

I think graduation rates for student-athletes should be =/> to the graduation rate of the rest of the student body.

Hopefully he is not going there for their recent history and traditions.

QUOTE(#8):

Originally posted 09:51 AM ET  11.03 by VanByTheRiver

Number one graduation rate in the country, 8 years running i believe, smart kid.Any coach that fails to graduate 90% of his players should in some way be limited or punished when it comes to recruiting. New NCAA rule, what do you think.

90%??? No way. While I agree the education should be primary, its nowhere near realistic to think the majority of schools will graduate that many kids.

QUOTE(#8):

Originally posted 09:51 AM ET  11.03 by VanByTheRiver

Number one graduation rate in the country, 8 years running i believe, smart kid.Any coach that fails to graduate 90% of his players should in some way be limited or punished when it comes to recruiting. New NCAA rule, what do you think.

Can't punish coaches that have kids that don't graduate because they leave for the NFL. I do like this kids attitude though. We need more like him in all avenues of life.

QUOTE(#8):

Originally posted 09:51 AM ET  11.03 by VanByTheRiver

Number one graduation rate in the country, 8 years running i believe, smart kid.Any coach that fails to graduate 90% of his players should in some way be limited or punished when it comes to recruiting. New NCAA rule, what do you think.

Agreed, would change the makeup of the BCS

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Originally posted 10:00 AM ET  11.03 by GIE

I think graduation rates for student-athletes should be =/> to the graduation rate of the rest of the student body.

This is a more sound idea to me.

Does this mean that academic departments will oversign like their football coaches that oversign???

Signing day is a long ways away. This kid as well as the rest out there have plenty of time to flip-flop through the recruiting process.

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Originally posted 10:45 AM ET  11.03 by MISSingIA St.

This is a more sound idea to me. Does this mean that academic departments will oversign like their football coaches that oversign???

@ Bama and Ole Miss.

Biggest victory for the Irish all year.

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Originally posted 11:05 AM ET  11.03 by 12-0 deal with it (BB9)

Biggest victory for the Irish all year.

Maybe they can make it count towards bowl eligibility.

QUOTE(#8):

Originally posted 09:51 AM ET  11.03 by VanByTheRiver

Number one graduation rate in the country, 8 years running i believe, smart kid.Any coach that fails to graduate 90% of his players should in some way be limited or punished when it comes to recruiting. New NCAA rule, what do you think.

I think when all you have to brag about is graduation rates, then your football program is in trouble. Just sayin'...

The old saying..'Winning cures all ills'....definitely applies to ND. The tradition is still there, but they need a consistent WINNING tradition. Its hard to figure out...unless they string some 9-3,10-2 type seasons together i don't see any turnaround. You have to win to get any recognition.
Yes, the academics are second to none, but mediocrity on the field seems well entrenched there now.

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Originally posted 12:57 PM ET  11.03 by midnite_rambler

Yes, the academics are second to none, but mediocrity on the field seems well entrenched there now.

Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Stanford and a few others may want to debate this statement. Not to mention their football teams are better than ND's this year.

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Originally posted 12:15 PM ET  11.03 by JRM74

WTF happened to my quote reference (#3 by Joekidd)? Are the effin' FN boards acting up again?

You dissing my #3? Why you dissing my #3??? You would think what I said was obvious, but it seems some coaches don't get it.

Franchione never recruited OL.

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Originally posted 10:10 AM ET  11.03 by ICEnSoCal

90%??? No way. While I agree the education should be primary, its nowhere near realistic to think the majority of schools will graduate that many kids.

Yes, way. Check it out= http://www.und.com/genrel/102308aaa.html