Tigers to push for V-Mart?

Doubtful...

Dude- where ate the Mods?! This is ridiculious!

V-Mart isnt historically much of a threat at Comerica... If the Tigers get him- they had better not stop there if they actually think it will make them more competitive...

V-Mart isnt historically much of a threat at Comerica... If the Tigers get him- they had better not stop there if they actually think it will make them more competitive...

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Originally posted 08:35 AM ET  11.08 by A Fact: is alive

V-Mart isnt historically much of a threat at Comerica... If the Tigers get him- they had better not stop there if they actually think it will make them more competitive...

Spinning thingy?

Boston can't allow the loss of Martinez.

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Originally posted 08:38 AM ET  11.08 by clemtheslowson

Spinning thingy?

I wish the spiny thingy would affect the spam caseroles

I pronounce this thread dead at 9:20 am

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Originally posted 08:42 AM ET  11.08 by brotha68

Boston can't allow the loss of Martinez.

Sure they can go out and get John Buck and there isn't a ton of difference at the plate and Buck is better defensively. Make up what little offense they lose by signing Werth or just getting the trade done for Gonzo.

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Originally posted 09:30 AM ET  11.08 by I Must Break You

Sure they can go out and get John Buck and there isn't a ton of difference at the plate and Buck is better defensively. Make up what little offense they lose by signing Werth or just getting the trade done for Gonzo.

Yes, because John Buck has a long track record of producing at a level close to Martinez...

That'll suck if Martinez goes to the Tigers.

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Originally posted 09:37 AM ET  11.08 by Slinkton Sr.

That'll suck if Martinez goes to the Tigers.

It may, but it won't compare to the suckage of trading him to the Red Sox for baby hughey

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Originally posted 09:36 AM ET  11.08 by Slinkton Sr.

Yes, because John Buck has a long track record of producing at a level close to Martinez...

No he doesn't but I think people are giving Martinez way too much credit... the dude is horrible behind the plate... yes he can hit and is probably the 2nd best hitting catcher in the majors but i would personally take a better defensive catcher and replace his bat with all the bats that are equivalent on the market... Werth, Crawford, Beltre, trade for Gonzalez, Konerko, Huff, LaRoche... too name a few and all of those guys are comparable bats... Buck might not have the track record but he did have almost the same year as Martinez at the plate.

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Originally posted 09:48 AM ET  11.08 by I Must Break You

No he doesn't but I think people are giving Martinez way too much credit... the dude is horrible behind the plate... yes he can hit and is probably the 2nd best hitting catcher in the majors but i would personally take a better defensive catcher and replace his bat with all the bats that are equivalent on the market... Werth, Crawford, Beltre, trade for Gonzalez, Konerko, Huff, LaRoche... too name a few and all of those guys are comparable bats... Buck might not have the track record but he did have almost the same year as Martinez at the plate.

I have to agree..if its a choice between Buck and Martinez right now, I go with Buck. I think you are getting a better all around player for your money

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what about Buck Martinez? two birds...one stone

As long as he doen't speak..dude sounds like a cartoon character

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i pine for the days of Joe Garagiola, Tony Kubek and the like...announcers today just suck.

More than you realize my friend...when they do the booth shot during the game and Tim McCarver has that dazed look on his face its because Joe Buck just went south

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Originally posted 09:30 AM ET  11.08 by I Must Break You

Sure they can go out and get John Buck and there isn't a ton of difference at the plate and Buck is better defensively. Make up what little offense they lose by signing Werth or just getting the trade done for Gonzo.

Buck is a .280/20/70 guy offensively?

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Originally posted 09:48 AM ET  11.08 by I Must Break You

No he doesn't but I think people are giving Martinez way too much credit... the dude is horrible behind the plate... yes he can hit and is probably the 2nd best hitting catcher in the majors but i would personally take a better defensive catcher and replace his bat with all the bats that are equivalent on the market... Werth, Crawford, Beltre, trade for Gonzalez, Konerko, Huff, LaRoche... too name a few and all of those guys are comparable bats... Buck might not have the track record but he did have almost the same year as Martinez at the plate.

Unless the guy is as bad as you say on the defensive end, then you don't want to lose a catcher with the offensive ability of Martinez.

Why does it have to be either/or in terms of having other bats in the lineup? Why not have Martinez AND other solid bats throughout the lineup?

You can work around a catcher that doesn't throw out 50% of basestealers.

As a matter of fact, what is the average for today's catchers in terms of throwing out basestealers?

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Originally posted 09:54 AM ET  11.08 by Beyabi

I have to agree..if its a choice between Buck and Martinez right now, I go with Buck. I think you are getting a better all around player for your money

What are Buck's number at the plate?

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what about Buck Martinez? two birds...one stone

Right lol...

... can he bring Dave Stieb with him lol?