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08:22 AM ET 11.10 | Garrett Gilbert struggled mightily in a 39-14 loss at Kansas State, but he's not losing his job to Case McCoy. While they're quick to defend Gilbert, [Mack Brown and Greg Davis] both said they considered replacing him in the second half of Saturday's loss. They said they made the decision to insert [McCoy] midway through the fourth quarter, but because UT's defense forced a three-and-out, McCoy didn't have enough time to loosen up on the sideline. ... "We thought about taking Garrett out," Brown said. "But if you do, you've crushed him."

Houston Chronicle

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November 10, 2010  08:41 AM ET

Sounds like Mack is the antithesis of somebody like the Ol' Ball Coach, who'd yank your carcass to the bench midway through the second quarter if you were making high throws or bad decisions.

Quite a contrast in styles.

November 10, 2010  08:46 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Sounds like Mack is the antithesis of somebody like the Ol' Ball Coach, who'd yank your carcass to the bench midway through the second quarter if you were making high throws or bad decisions.Quite a contrast in styles.

Did he ever wait until the 2nd Q?

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November 10, 2010  08:58 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Sounds like Mack is the antithesis of somebody like the Ol' Ball Coach, who'd yank your carcass to the bench midway through the second quarter if you were making high throws or bad decisions.Quite a contrast in styles.

I remember Terry Dean was a Heisman candidate when Spurrier yanked him.

November 10, 2010  08:58 AM ET
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Coach Mack the Anti-Spurrier.

Mack can whine just as good as Spurrier.

November 10, 2010  09:05 AM ET

I won't believe it until the defensive coordinator says its true or Colt McCoy says thats what happened.

November 10, 2010  09:07 AM ET

No Mack will stick with one QB generally. Remember the Simms/Applewhite controversy? Even when a lot of people were clamoring for a change, he stuck with his guy (until the second half of the Holiday Bowl when Applewhite led an amazing comeback).

One of Mack's many qualities is that he's loyal to a fault. It just may be coming back to bite him badly here with Davis and Gilbert both.

November 10, 2010  09:11 AM ET

How you holding up FJJ? This is a walk in the park compared to the Gibbs, Schnellenberger, Blake trilogy I endured.

November 10, 2010  09:25 AM ET
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How you holding up FJJ? This is a walk in the park compared to the Gibbs, Schnellenberger, Blake trilogy I endured.

That was quite a trifecta, however, putting a Win ticket on Bill Callahan may equal that trio in full.

November 10, 2010  09:28 AM ET

The Zooker

November 10, 2010  09:30 AM ET

Time for him to put on his big boy pants.

November 10, 2010  09:31 AM ET

AF, did you catch the ESPN 30/30 on Marcus Dupree. A shame he didn't reach his potenial. Can't imagine what he would have been like on that 85' OU team.

November 10, 2010  09:39 AM ET
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That was quite a trifecta, however, putting a Win ticket on Bill Callahan may equal that trio in full.

Some of my favorite Schnellenberger moments:

During a recruitng visit Schnellenberger kicked a recruit (future Okie Lite and NFL player R.W. McQuarters) out of his office for wearing a baseball cap.

At halftime of the Colorado game with a three point lead he announced to the tv commentator that there wouldn't be any halftime adjustments because good coaches who prepare don't need them. Colorado outscored us by three touchdowns in the 2nd half.

After beating Iowa State he said it was a far more important game than the next game against Texas because Iowa State was a conference game.

How that clown made it a full season at OU is beyond me.

November 10, 2010  09:42 AM ET
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AF, did you catch the ESPN 30/30 on Marcus Dupree. A shame he didn't reach his potenial. Can't imagine what he would have been like on that 85' OU team.

Yeah, I watched it last night. Thought it was well done. Interesting how the reverand who told him to leave OU and lost all his money for him was on the show and didn't look sorry at all for his part in DuPree's downfall. I thought Switzer and Selmon handled it with class. Same thing Switzer said in his biography-biggest regret of his coaching career was how he handled Marcus DuPree. I remember that Fiesta Bowl like it was yesterday. The guy was a monster.

November 10, 2010  09:44 AM ET
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Some of my favorite Schnellenberger moments:During a recruitng visit Schnellenberger kicked a recruit (future Okie Lite and NFL player R.W. McQuarters) out of his office for wearing a baseball cap.At halftime of the Colorado game with a three point lead he announced to the tv commentator that there wouldn't be any halftime adjustments because good coaches who prepare don't need them. Colorado outscored us by three touchdowns in the 2nd half.After beating Iowa State he said it was a far more important game than the next game against Texas because Iowa State was a conference game.How that clown made it a full season at OU is beyond me.

Those are beauties, but at least it was one season instead of 4! I remember Callahan after Missouri slaughtered us 40-6 and I'm not sure we had a 150 yards of offense, say in his press conference " I saw a lot of positives out there "..........................Rest in He**, Bill.

November 10, 2010  09:45 AM ET
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AF, did you catch the ESPN 30/30 on Marcus Dupree. A shame he didn't reach his potenial. Can't imagine what he would have been like on that 85' OU team.

And don't forget, DuPree's QB in 1985 would have been Troy Aikman with Keith Jackson at tight end. What an offense that would have been.

November 10, 2010  09:46 AM ET
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Yeah, I watched it last night. Thought it was well done. Interesting how the reverand who told him to leave OU and lost all his money for him was on the show and didn't look sorry at all for his part in DuPree's downfall. I thought Switzer and Selmon handled it with class. Same thing Switzer said in his biography-biggest regret of his coaching career was how he handled Marcus DuPree. I remember that Fiesta Bowl like it was yesterday. The guy was a monster.

Switzer's a dude. I get a charge out him.

November 10, 2010  09:57 AM ET
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Isn't UM's record the same as his this year. : )

Nope, Urbie has one more win and still has a shot at the SEC title

November 10, 2010  10:02 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

No Mack will stick with one QB generally. Remember the Simms/Applewhite controversy? Even when a lot of people were clamoring for a change, he stuck with his guy (until the second half of the Holiday Bowl when Applewhite led an amazing comeback). One of Mack's many qualities is that he's loyal to a fault. It just may be coming back to bite him badly here with Davis and Gilbert both.

Remember Mack's lengthy press conference at the beginning of 2010 spring ball? He talked about the mistakes he made with Colt - relying on Colt too much as a weapon and not being prepared when he went down. Of course that was the press conference where he talked about balancing the attack, running downhill more, playing under center, throwing vertically instead of horizontally, etc ...

 
November 10, 2010  10:06 AM ET
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Yeah, I watched it last night. Thought it was well done. Interesting how the reverand who told him to leave OU and lost all his money for him was on the show and didn't look sorry at all for his part in DuPree's downfall. I thought Switzer and Selmon handled it with class. Same thing Switzer said in his biography-biggest regret of his coaching career was how he handled Marcus DuPree. I remember that Fiesta Bowl like it was yesterday. The guy was a monster.

I know some real old heads that talked about the Marcus Dupree high school days. They say the kid was the absolute greatest high schooler to ever come out of MS. I remember some of his freshman year at OU. The dude was absolutely awesome. It is amazing how physically mature he was for a 17-18 year old kid. My wife and I watched, and she had never heard of him. By the end of the show, she was ready to go and hurt the "preacher". It was nice that he seemed at peace with himself after getting a shot at the NFL.

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