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08:20 AM ET 11.15 | Cliff Lee's agent, Darek Braunecker, may not even attend this week's GM meetings in Orlando. "I am still uncertain of attending GM meetings," Braunecker said in an e-mail to The Post yesterday. "[I] don't know [if] it's necessary in this case." Lee is the prize of the free agent market. The 32-year-old left-hander figures to land a contract in the same zip code as CC Sabathia's seven-year, $161 million deal from two years ago. ... He is not expected to sign with anyone until the Winter Meetings on Dec. 6-9 at the earliest. "I would categorize it as infancy or at best, initial stages of process," Braunecker said.

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November 15, 2010  09:36 AM ET

"The 32-year-old left-hander figures to land a contract in the same zip code as CC Sabathia's seven-year, $161 million deal from two years ago."

Logic tells me he figures wrong. Main difference between Lee and Sabathia/Santana is that Lee is 32, soon to turn 33. CC and Santana were both in their mid to late 20's when they signed their deal. I'd offer 5 and 100 mil and that's still overpaying. No way I bet he's worth the money at age 38. Then again, I don't run the Yankees.

November 15, 2010  09:42 AM ET
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"The 32-year-old left-hander figures to land a contract in the same zip code as CC Sabathia's seven-year, $161 million deal from two years ago."Logic tells me he figures wrong. Main difference between Lee and Sabathia/Santana is that Lee is 32, soon to turn 33. CC and Santana were both in their mid to late 20's when they signed their deal. I'd offer 5 and 100 mil and that's still overpaying. No way I bet he's worth the money at age 38. Then again, I don't run the Yankees.

Yeah, anyone who pays Lee $20M for more than four years will be regretting it. Seven year contracts never work out, espeically for someone ready to start working the downside of their career.

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November 15, 2010  10:02 AM ET
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"The 32-year-old left-hander figures to land a contract in the same zip code as CC Sabathia's seven-year, $161 million deal from two years ago."Logic tells me he figures wrong. Main difference between Lee and Sabathia/Santana is that Lee is 32, soon to turn 33. CC and Santana were both in their mid to late 20's when they signed their deal. I'd offer 5 and 100 mil and that's still overpaying. No way I bet he's worth the money at age 38. Then again, I don't run the Yankees.

agreed... whoever pays that price, will be sorry for the last 2-3 years...

November 15, 2010  10:09 AM ET
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but he's one of the elite pitchers in the game at this point,

26 wins 22 losses and a 3.20 ERA over the last two regular seasons....not as elite as everyone thinks

November 15, 2010  10:09 AM ET
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He'll get at least a four year $80m contract. Guaranteed. I don't think there's any doubt he'll get $23m+ per year. He is 32, but he's one of the elite pitchers in the game at this point, is an unrestricted free agent in an otherwise weak free agent pool.

Be interesting to see, if he gets at least a 4 year deal for more than $92M , will CC Sabathia opt out of his contract after next year. 4 years and 92M is what he would be owed, and he would be a year younger than Lee.

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November 15, 2010  10:14 AM ET
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He'll get at least a four year $80m contract. Guaranteed. I don't think there's any doubt he'll get $23m+ per year. He is 32, but he's one of the elite pitchers in the game at this point, is an unrestricted free agent in an otherwise weak free agent pool.

No doubt. He could probably even live up to four years $80M, but it's a stretch. Beyond that, the odds are strong that there will be some serious buyers remorse.

November 15, 2010  10:14 AM ET
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Exactly. If Lee gets a $100m+ contract and Sabathia has a solid 2011, I don't think there's any question that Sabathia will opt out.

that's why the Yankees had better be careful what they offer.

November 15, 2010  10:15 AM ET
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I don't think the teams that give pitchers 5-7 year contracts are expecting to "get their moneys worth in the late years. I think they look at it more as deferred payment for the early years and, if the player does produce late in the contract, it's gravy. Fat people love gravy.

What do you call ARods deal? A down payment on the national debt?

November 15, 2010  10:16 AM ET
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Exactly. If Lee gets a $100m+ contract and Sabathia has a solid 2011, I don't think there's any question that Sabathia will opt out.

Interesting point. Arod-gate Part 2. The Red Sox could pretend to be interested too. I love when history repeats itself.

November 15, 2010  10:18 AM ET
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What do you call ARods deal? A down payment on the national debt?

Think of the money the Yankees could be shelling out in say 4 years to no longer productive players, if they're not careful.

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November 15, 2010  10:28 AM ET

What a joke - other teams/Red Sox drive up the price? What does it matter? Yankees will top any offer because they can. Sox offer $100M for five years is probably the only way they or any other team have a shot, and can't imagine any team stupid or rich enough to do that contract - except NY.

November 15, 2010  10:36 AM ET

It is just getting started...plenty of time to repeat all of this...

November 15, 2010  10:54 AM ET
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this is nor your Dad's MLB anymore...i'm not looking this up, but am willing to bet that each for the past 15 years, less than 5 starting pitchers have ERAs less than 3 in the AL

Without looking it up i will go with very few starters have had sub 3.00 Eras while pitching substantial innings.

 
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