At least three teams chasing De La Rosa?

Pittsburgh, that would be an impressive signing.

Pittsburgh? That would be an impressive signing for them.

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Originally posted 08:13 AM ET  11.17 by Bolio

Pittsburgh? That would be an impressive signing for them.

Whoops. Missing post syndrome.

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Originally posted 08:13 AM ET  11.17 by Bolio

Pittsburgh? That would be an impressive signing for them.

Definitely. I'm, for whatever reason, the optimistic Pirates fan. I think Clint Hurdle is a good pick up for them as well. Did well developing young guys out in Colorado and has ties with De La Rosa. I've heard rumors the Buccos might throw up to 8 figures at the guy. I read a nice little article that said before Hurdle agreed to be manager, he basically asked Nutting if he was all in, and where his priorities lied financially. I guess he liked the answer. Baby steps!

Pittsburg actually doing something. Did they change owners?

This would be great for Pittsburgh, actually go out and sign a solid player... who woulda thunk it?

An excerpt from a meeting in Pirates headquarters:

Frank Coonelly: I had a brilliant idea.
Bob Nutting: Trade McCutchen for cash considerations?
Coonelly: No Bob. In order to win, maybe we have to sign good players.
Nutting: Why would we do that?
Coonelly: The fans are pretty ticked at you, they might start to boycott going to the PNC and Seven Springs.
Nutting: We can't have that, I need more money. Sign Clint Hurdle and Jorge De La Rossa.

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Not a wise move for the Pirates. De La Rosa is not as good of a pitcher as some people think. Career ERA of 5.00, 1.500 WHIP, and his lowest ERA was 4.22 in 2010.

He's better than any of the other Pirates pitchers, any area where they drastically need help.

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Originally posted 09:37 AM ET  11.17 by SteelCurtain32

He's better than any of the other Pirates pitchers, any area where they drastically need help.

should say "an area." Also, if you consider the caliber of player the Pirates brass usually brings in, this is a big improvement.

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Originally posted 10:09 AM ET  11.17 by SteelCurtain32

should say "an area." Also, if you consider the caliber of player the Pirates brass usually brings in, this is a big improvement.

That's very true. I hope they get him.

So are the pirates going to be the rays or the royals.

I'd love to be as optimistic as fellow Pittsburgher SteelCurtain32, but I have to exercise extreme caution. The Nuttings suck as owners, quite possibly the worst in all of sports and have a lot to prove before I'll have any faith in them signing or keeping players.

That being said, I think the hiring of Clint Hurdle is a very solid move and I'd love to see them get some pitching help to go with the core of young players they have.

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Originally posted 08:56 AM ET  11.17 by Bronx_Pride

Pittsburg actually doing something. Did they change owners?

Yes.

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Originally posted 10:33 AM ET  11.17 by LGP: Pensational!

I'd love to be as optimistic as fellow Pittsburgher SteelCurtain32, but I have to exercise extreme caution. The Nuttings suck as owners, quite possibly the worst in all of sports and have a lot to prove before I'll have any faith in them signing or keeping players.That being said, I think the hiring of Clint Hurdle is a very solid move and I'd love to see them get some pitching help to go with the core of young players they have.

That's me, always making lemonade out of lemons or so they say. Agreed on Hurdle. I think thats the best move out of the options they had. A guy with a good back ground and comes from a winning atmosphere, I think thats what the Pirates locker room needs. Russell was a statue and brought no emotion to the team.

The Pirates obviously are not going to bring in a Halladay or Santana type, but good pitching is needed. They currently have a 'bottom of the barrel' rotation in my opinion.

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Is he though? He pitched more than 130 innings only once in his career. This could be more money being flushed down the toilet by the Pirates.

Morton was 2-12 with a 7.6 ERA.
Ohlendorf has a career 4.4 ERA and was 1-11 last year.
Maholm was 9-15 with a 5.1 ERA
Karstens was 3-10 with a 4.9 ERA
Duke, the Pirates 'ace' was 8-15 wit ha 5.72 ERA

Brad Lincoln was supposed to be good but finished 1-4 with a 6.6 ERA and was sent back down.

Not including the 2 guys they just drafted (Jameson Taillon and Stetson Allie), Evan Meek and James MacDonald are the only pitchers that show any promise.

So ya, De La Rosa would be an improvement.

Cain,

I'm not trying to say that you're wrong, but if you had to watch the characters that the Pirates have been bringing in every year, you'd view it as an improvement too.

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Originally posted 10:38 AM ET  11.17 by Atro SYB

Yes.

Well that explains it.

Is Pittsburg running short of drywallers?

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Originally posted 12:39 PM ET  11.17 by SteelCurtain32

Morton was 2-12 with a 7.6 ERA.Ohlendorf has a career 4.4 ERA and was 1-11 last year.Maholm was 9-15 with a 5.1 ERAKarstens was 3-10 with a 4.9 ERADuke, the Pirates 'ace' was 8-15 wit ha 5.72 ERABrad Lincoln was supposed to be good but finished 1-4 with a 6.6 ERA and was sent back down.Not including the 2 guys they just drafted (Jameson Taillon and Stetson Allie), Evan Meek and James MacDonald are the only pitchers that show any promise. So ya, De La Rosa would be an improvement.

I thought Charlie Morton had a shot. He was young and very inconsistent with the Braves, but I thought he might grow out of it. His stuff is awesome. But since the Braves were willing to trade him to the Pirates, though, that was a hint that the Braves didn't think so.

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Originally posted 06:55 PM ET  11.17 by Piltdown Rabbit

I thought Charlie Morton had a shot. He was young and very inconsistent with the Braves, but I thought he might grow out of it. His stuff is awesome. But since the Braves were willing to trade him to the Pirates, though, that was a hint that the Braves didn't think so.

Morton and Lincoln may come around yet. I'm not holding my breath though.