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08:26 AM ET 11.19 | There may have been a time when the Rangers had an inside track on Cliff Lee. During the postseason, after the Rangers eliminated the Yankees in the ALCS and advanced to their first-ever World Series, Texas officials were offering some tough talk about going mano a mano with the Yankees for Lee. But that passion was harder to find at the GM Meetings. In fact, Rangers president Nolan Ryan said he envisions the Yankees making the top offer for the No. 1 free-agent starter available. Which means Texas would have to appeal to Lee on issues beyond money, although the belief of those who have gotten to know Lee is that dollars will be -- by far -- the deciding factor.

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November 19, 2010  08:28 AM ET

Better start making other plans

November 19, 2010  08:49 AM ET

did they refresh a thread from months ago? lol

November 19, 2010  08:53 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

did they refresh a thread from months ago? lol

The reporters are just trying to fill space.

November 19, 2010  09:07 AM ET

Nolan has been saying that since the season ended. If it's only money - it's NY. This is not a new thought.

November 19, 2010  09:38 AM ET

Its still anyones game to land Cliff. He is the hottest pitcher available this offseason and I think he would be stupid not to entertain other offers outside Tex and NY.

I can't wait to see the final numbers of his contract. Thats what they should be posting, what he is going to get instead of re-treading these tires daily.

November 19, 2010  09:51 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Nolan has been saying that since the season ended. If it's only money - it's NY. This is not a new thought.

Didn't you go on record predicting the Rangers would re-sign Lee?

November 19, 2010  09:55 AM ET

Not a surprise, Lee could have signed multiple lucritive ontracts over the passsed couple of years but he turned them down to get this one, biggest, contract.

November 19, 2010  10:15 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

The reporters are just trying to fill space.

Exactly lol

November 19, 2010  10:15 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Didn't you go on record predicting the Rangers would re-sign Lee?

They still may do so.

November 19, 2010  10:16 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Not a surprise, Lee could have signed multiple lucritive ontracts over the passsed couple of years but he turned them down to get this one, biggest, contract.

His last "big" deal.

November 19, 2010  10:18 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

They still may do so.

So can 28 other teams.

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November 19, 2010  10:41 AM ET

I really, really hate to agree with ANYTHING the NYP says. But..... this sounds about right actually. I'm getting the vibe that Lee's eyeballs are FIXED on New York. Texas seems to be getting cold feet, judging from what Nolan Ryan is saying.

Apparently Texas is not quite ready to swim with the big boys just yet. Too bad seeing as they have the money and resources to do so if they ever got out of their own way.

November 19, 2010  10:46 AM ET

It seems like a foregone conclusion that he'll sign with NY and the rest is just posturing to drive up the bid.

November 19, 2010  10:46 AM ET
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Gotta think he wants a ring

Or $120 million

November 19, 2010  10:51 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

I really, really hate to agree with ANYTHING the NYP says. But..... this sounds about right actually. I'm getting the vibe that Lee's eyeballs are FIXED on New York. Texas seems to be getting cold feet, judging from what Nolan Ryan is saying. Apparently Texas is not quite ready to swim with the big boys just yet. Too bad seeing as they have the money and resources to do so if they ever got out of their own way.

If swinging with the big boys requires signing someone to a 7 Year $160M contract at age 31, I think you're best off avoiding the "big boy" signings. Most end up to be disasters in, at least, the last half of the contract.

November 19, 2010  10:58 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Didn't you go on record predicting the Rangers would re-sign Lee?

I never said they or anyone else would outbid the Yankees. I thought and still do that if he considers more issues than just money the Rangers would get him.

November 19, 2010  10:59 AM ET
QUOTE(#18):

If swinging with the big boys requires signing someone to a 7 Year $160M contract at age 31, I think you're best off avoiding the "big boy" signings. Most end up to be disasters in, at least, the last half of the contract.

This will ultimately be a disaster for whoever ends up signing Lee.

November 19, 2010  11:01 AM ET
QUOTE(#19):

I never said they or anyone else would outbid the Yankees. I thought and still do that if he considers more issues than just money the Rangers would get him.

You didn't answer the question. Did you not - multiple times - predict that Lee would sign with the Rangers?

...and that Texas would beat SF in 6?

 
November 19, 2010  11:05 AM ET

And, to continue my thought, if you did (you did) predict that Lee would sign with Texas, that presupposes that Lee would consider issues other than money.

Just man up and own it.

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