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07:36 AM ET 12.11 | The Yankees' money offered to Cliff Lee has sweat stains on it. There is a sense of apprehension running through the organization that any of the three contract scenarios -- five, six or seven years -- may not be enough to lure Lee to The Bronx. They understand the Rangers aren't going away quietly, and that Texas may have increased its offer to six years. The Yankees also know the Angels have plenty of money.

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December 11, 2010  07:55 AM ET

morning Spammers...........

Yankees will outbid anybody n the long run, no need to worry.

That said.... stick it to them Chuck!!!

December 11, 2010  08:23 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

morning Spammers...........Yankees will outbid anybody n the long run, no need to worry.That said.... stick it to them Chuck!!!

I'm sure they will outbid everybody... but maybe Lee just doesn't wanna play in NY and the longer he takes deciding the less I think he will sign there.

December 11, 2010  08:39 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

I'm sure they will outbid everybody... but maybe Lee just doesn't wanna play in NY and the longer he takes deciding the less I think he will sign there.

It's interesting reading the SI chatter on the subject. Verducci comes up with an interesting angle on this. If Lee accepts a 7 year mega deal, it will make the Yanks VERY old and VERY expensive in 3 years. It's this very scenario that other teams are actually hoping for so they get their windows of opportunity. You have to wonder what Lee is thinking here. There's certainly both fame and fortune in winning the ALCS and WS. He'll make enough money already. What else does he want? That's the part that has the Yankees sweating. They're damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

December 11, 2010  08:47 AM ET

Lee will be a Ranger and the Yankees will cry..................

Oh what a great day it will be.

December 11, 2010  08:54 AM ET
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Lee will be a Ranger and the Yankees will cry..................Oh what a great day it will be.

If the contract is for 7 years, the winner will be the loser.

December 11, 2010  09:00 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

I'm sure they will outbid everybody... but maybe Lee just doesn't wanna play in NY and the longer he takes deciding the less I think he will sign there.

I'm sure Mrs. Lee will have something to say in the matter and she's already said she doesn't like NY......but the longer they wait, the more money will be on the table from other clubs!

December 11, 2010  09:06 AM ET

I say him holding out for more offers shows that he isn't all in on NY... so this Lee to NY a for sure thing, maybe not so for sure.

December 11, 2010  09:10 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

If the contract is for 7 years, the winner will be the loser.

Ding Ding Ding!

We have a winner!

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December 11, 2010  09:21 AM ET
QUOTE(#19):

Let me say up front that as a yankee fan.....I do NOT want lee for any more than 5 years....7? InsanityThat being said, therea s no 'rational' he's going for the most bang for his buck. There is no 'want' to play jere or there, its where's the most $

Unless he actually cares about his family and the fact they live in Arkansas.

Plus, the tax may come into play. That's quite a chunk of change as well.

If they do sign Lee, in 3 years, they'll have a 40 year old SS making 17 million a year, a 37 year old 3B making 26 million a year who is on the decline and for those who doubt me, look at his last 4 years and they are all down, an obese pitcher who had at least 1 knee surgery making 23 million a year and a 36 year old lefthander making 25 million a year.

That's over 95,000,000 million right there...

A-Rod's average is going down by 15 points a year for the last 3 years. Down over 45 points....

That's a really bad sign.

December 11, 2010  09:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

It's interesting reading the SI chatter on the subject. Verducci comes up with an interesting angle on this. If Lee accepts a 7 year mega deal, it will make the Yanks VERY old and VERY expensive in 3 years. It's this very scenario that other teams are actually hoping for so they get their windows of opportunity. You have to wonder what Lee is thinking here. There's certainly both fame and fortune in winning the ALCS and WS. He'll make enough money already. What else does he want? That's the part that has the Yankees sweating. They're damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

Well said.....

December 11, 2010  09:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

I say him holding out for more offers shows that he isn't all in on NY... so this Lee to NY a for sure thing, maybe not so for sure.

I read something earlier that the Red Sox aren't completely "out" on Lee either. If they are in on Lee, it is to force the Yanks to pay more and give him more years because I don't see the Sox actually signing him, Epstein isn't that crazy.

Although, they do have $50,000,000 coming off the books next year as well in Boston.....

December 11, 2010  09:29 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

If the contract is for 7 years, the winner will be the loser.

I agree.

December 11, 2010  09:33 AM ET
QUOTE(#21):

Unless he actually cares about his family and the fact they live in Arkansas.Plus, the tax may come into play. That's quite a chunk of change as well.If they do sign Lee, in 3 years, they'll have a 40 year old SS making 17 million a year, a 37 year old 3B making 26 million a year who is on the decline and for those who doubt me, look at his last 4 years and they are all down, an obese pitcher who had at least 1 knee surgery making 23 million a year and a 36 year old lefthander making 25 million a year.That's over 95,000,000 million right there...A-Rod's average is going down by 15 points a year for the last 3 years. Down over 45 points....That's a really bad sign.

When you add in 10% Tax for NY State and Local taxes and apply it to a $150M contract, being that they are taxed where they play & half the games will be in NY, you're talking about ~$7.5M in taxes that don't exist in TX.

December 11, 2010  09:35 AM ET

It's amazing to me that the Rangers want to back up the Brinks truck for a guy that was 4-6 with a 3.98 ERA for them last year.

December 11, 2010  09:41 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

If the contract is for 7 years, the winner will be the loser.

they'll find a way to get rid of his contract by the fourth or fifth year, if necessary.

some team will be willing to trade for him, if nothing else.

December 11, 2010  09:45 AM ET
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When you add in 10% Tax for NY State and Local taxes and apply it to a $150M contract, being that they are taxed where they play & half the games will be in NY, you're talking about ~$7.5M in taxes that don't exist in TX.

it's hard for me to believe this would matter very much to him. what's the difference between taking home $20 million a year and $21 million?

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