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08:23 AM ET 12.17 | Reading between the lines leaves a lot of room for the Red Sox to move closer Jonathan Papelbon after landing Bobby Jenks. Sources indicated the Red Sox plan to keep Papelbon as their closer, with Jenks joining Daniel Bard in setup roles. ... The Red Sox could very easily make [Jenks] their closer, with Bard staying in place as the primary setup man. If nothing else, the deal could make it easier for the Red Sox to let Papelbon walk when he becomes a free agent after next season, knowing Bard and Jenks are under contract. Papelbon is in his final year of arbitration and could make up to $12 million, despite coming off the worst season of his career.

The Boston Globe

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December 17, 2010  08:28 AM ET

Both Jenks and Pap had bad years last year; it'll be interesting to see what develops here.

December 17, 2010  08:35 AM ET

I'd be surprised if they trade him. He's in a contract year. He will probably pitch much better this year than last (It would be hard not to)

December 17, 2010  08:57 AM ET

I've been saying for a while that he'll get traded. With Bard in the wings, they aren't going to sign Papelbon to anything longer than 1 year. Plus, at 10 mil + a year, it simply isn't worth it.

December 17, 2010  09:04 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

I've been saying for a while that he'll get traded. With Bard in the wings, they aren't going to sign Papelbon to anything longer than 1 year. Plus, at 10 mil + a year, it simply isn't worth it.

I wouldn't send Paps anywhere yet. Jenks was terrible last year, and who knows if Bard has the stones to pitch in the 9th inning.

December 17, 2010  09:17 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

I'd be surprised if they trade him. He's in a contract year. He will probably pitch much better this year than last (It would be hard not to)

hes been in arbitration the past 2 years so every year is a contract year

December 17, 2010  09:28 AM ET

Trade him for what? Will they eat salary.

December 17, 2010  09:29 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Trade him for what? Will they eat salary.

Not until they sign him. If they trade before signing, I believe they aren't on the hook for anything, but I may be wrong.

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December 17, 2010  09:33 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I wouldn't send Paps anywhere yet. Jenks was terrible last year, and who knows if Bard has the stones to pitch in the 9th inning.

Jenks' signing gives the Sox a lot of flexibility and options. Agree, there is no point in trading him now; let's see how he performs in the first part of the season, and Bard/Jenks as well. There is time to decide on a trade before June, and see what is offered and what they may need.
In the long run, Pap is probably gone after next year, too expensive unless he comes back to his form of two/three years ago when he was lights out.

December 17, 2010  09:33 AM ET

That's a pretty devasting triumvirate for the 7th, 8th and 9th innings.

December 17, 2010  09:35 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I wouldn't send Paps anywhere yet. Jenks was terrible last year, and who knows if Bard has the stones to pitch in the 9th inning.

Only one way to find out about Bard, let him pitch the 9th. But with Pap and Jenks he may not get many opportunities to prove himself. Let's hope at least one of those two can improve on last year and if they both do, they hey, there are worse things than having too many good arms in the pen.

December 17, 2010  09:49 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Only one way to find out about Bard, let him pitch the 9th. But with Pap and Jenks he may not get many opportunities to prove himself. Let's hope at least one of those two can improve on last year and if they both do, they hey, there are worse things than having too many good arms in the pen.

theres no reason to rush Bard into the closers role. I'm sure he will have some save chances this year when Pappelbons not available.

December 17, 2010  09:51 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

That's a pretty devasting triumvirate for the 7th, 8th and 9th innings.

If Jenks or Papelbon can check their ego at the door. Both have closed for championship teams and both have tremendous egos.

December 17, 2010  09:54 AM ET

There were many times that Paps pitched back to back and then the Sox were vunerable in the 8th and 9th with no true closer. Maximize all three and if there is a valuable piece to pick up at trading deadline pull the plug on the deal..

December 17, 2010  09:56 AM ET

Of the three of them, Bard has the best stuff and he throws strikes. If Papelbon doesn't revert back to his 2006-2008 form, he wont be back next year. That said, you need at least three quality arms to have a strong bullpen, so I don't see them trading Papelbon when they're looking to make a world series run.

December 17, 2010  09:59 AM ET

Its a good problem to have. Let them all pitch, their performances will decide their fate. Jenks must have been told he will get a chance to compete for the job if paps cant regroup. The more arms the better. On paper the Sox pen is already better than it was

December 17, 2010  10:03 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

theres no reason to rush Bard into the closers role. I'm sure he will have some save chances this year when Pappelbons not available.

I agree, I don't want to rush him, but he may get fewer chances now with Jenks there. He needs to increase his closer role, albeit slowly, not decrease it. I guess we'll have to trust in Terry.

December 17, 2010  10:10 AM ET

Bard's stuff is electric. Jenks and Papelbon both have worthy stuff as well but they are head cases. They could trade Papelbon but I don't think they would get much for him considering he is going to make some good coin in arbritration. But that's the way the market is.

December 17, 2010  10:15 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

I'm with you. Let's hope the Sox keep all three and let the most effective one be the closer down the stretch.

They attempted something similar in 2003 with a "closer by committee" of primarily Alan Embree and Mike Timllin.

In 2004 they signed Keith Foulke to remedy that situation.

Boston would probably like to trade Pap for a good catcher.

Are there any available?

 
December 17, 2010  10:16 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Only one way to find out about Bard, let him pitch the 9th. But with Pap and Jenks he may not get many opportunities to prove himself. Let's hope at least one of those two can improve on last year and if they both do, they hey, there are worse things than having too many good arms in the pen.

One of those guys is going for a catcher and/or shortstop.

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