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08:06 AM ET 05.18 | The Western Conference isn't likely getting much weaker, and the Red Wings can hope the same is true in Detroit. Much will depend on the return of defenseman Nicklas Lidstrom. If Lidstrom were to retire after 19 seasons, the Red Wings would be a weaker team. But, if Lidstrom returns, the Red Wings have a core that'll be as good as any team. And it's because of that nucleus coach Mike Babcock believes Lidstrom, 41, will return. "If our team was no good, Nick wouldn't even consider coming back," Babcock said. "But having the kind of year he did, and the kind of playoff he did, and the kind of playoff our team had, it's given me confidence he'll be back." ... Some moves will be made, but likely minor. Ken Holland doesn't want to change the foundation of what should remain a talented and character-laden team.

The Detroit News

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May 18, 2011  08:34 AM ET

Oh no, they need to make some major changes, even if Lidstrom returns. Tweaking won't cut it anymore.

May 18, 2011  08:55 AM ET

Even Lidstrom can't play forever. The Wings should plan accordingly.

May 18, 2011  09:27 AM ET

1 more year, then retire while still great.

May 18, 2011  09:36 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Oh no, they need to make some major changes, even if Lidstrom returns. Tweaking won't cut it anymore.

I disagree.

Major changes aren't necessary - the core is still the core and doesn't need blowing up. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Lidstrom, Kronwall and Helm are all stalwarts the Wings have moving forward (if Nik returns...which I also expect).

They need to firm up the d again. Ericsson took a step forward these playoffs but is still mistake prone. Salei wasn't a difference maker. Rafalski was a liability. They've got Hudler, Filppula and some other also-rans they can use to address that...and maybe even Rafalski if anyone will take him.

May 18, 2011  09:36 AM ET

Must be a great ay to make a deal. "Hey Ken how bout one more at 5 million to give you extra space....Thanx Nick ill send over the papers".

May 18, 2011  09:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Must be a great ay to make a deal. "Hey Ken how bout one more at 5 million to give you extra space....Thanx Nick ill send over the papers".

If it takes even that long !

May 18, 2011  09:46 AM ET

No Argos post yet so I guess Nick's not going to To***to.

May 18, 2011  09:51 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

No Argos post yet so I guess Nick's not going to To***to.

Not until we acquire him as a rental at the deadline next season, he will pull a Ray Bourque, except win a Cup the first year. The Wings will be long elimated from the playoffs, so they deal Lidstrom for Gustavsson (cause they obviously need a goalie for the future), and Lidstrom goes on to win the Cup with the Leafs. Luke Schenn wins the Conn, and Lidstrom and Schenn form an all-time great pairing.

May 18, 2011  09:53 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Not until we acquire him as a rental at the deadline next season, he will pull a Ray Bourque, except win a Cup the first year. The Wings will be long elimated from the playoffs, so they deal Lidstrom for Gustavsson (cause they obviously need a goalie for the future), and Lidstrom goes on to win the Cup with the Leafs. Luke Schenn wins the Conn, and Lidstrom and Schenn form an all-time great pairing.

He'll retire a Red Wing.

May 18, 2011  09:58 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Not until we acquire him as a rental at the deadline next season, he will pull a Ray Bourque, except win a Cup the first year. The Wings will be long elimated from the playoffs, so they deal Lidstrom for Gustavsson (cause they obviously need a goalie for the future), and Lidstrom goes on to win the Cup with the Leafs. Luke Schenn wins the Conn, and Lidstrom and Schenn form an all-time great pairing.

Cue the music: 'To Dreeeeeam, The Impossible Dreeeeam!'

May 18, 2011  10:04 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Not until we acquire him as a rental at the deadline next season, he will pull a Ray Bourque, except win a Cup the first year. The Wings will be long elimated from the playoffs, so they deal Lidstrom for Gustavsson (cause they obviously need a goalie for the future), and Lidstrom goes on to win the Cup with the Leafs. Luke Schenn wins the Conn, and Lidstrom and Schenn form an all-time great pairing.

You need to quit smoking your breakfast.

May 18, 2011  10:05 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Not until we acquire him as a rental at the deadline next season, he will pull a Ray Bourque, except win a Cup the first year. The Wings will be long elimated from the playoffs, so they deal Lidstrom for Gustavsson (cause they obviously need a goalie for the future), and Lidstrom goes on to win the Cup with the Leafs. Luke Schenn wins the Conn, and Lidstrom and Schenn form an all-time great pairing.

dumbest thing I've heard in a long time.

May 18, 2011  10:31 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Not until we acquire him as a rental at the deadline next season, he will pull a Ray Bourque, except win a Cup the first year. The Wings will be long elimated from the playoffs, so they deal Lidstrom for Gustavsson (cause they obviously need a goalie for the future), and Lidstrom goes on to win the Cup with the Leafs. Luke Schenn wins the Conn, and Lidstrom and Schenn form an all-time great pairing.

Do I get credit for the straight line?

May 18, 2011  10:48 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Not until we acquire him as a rental at the deadline next season, he will pull a Ray Bourque, except win a Cup the first year. The Wings will be long elimated from the playoffs, so they deal Lidstrom for Gustavsson (cause they obviously need a goalie for the future), and Lidstrom goes on to win the Cup with the Leafs. Luke Schenn wins the Conn, and Lidstrom and Schenn form an all-time great pairing.

And, Lidstrom will be the first ever player to win a Cup in his seventies ;)

May 18, 2011  11:05 AM ET

Maybe, just maybe, Lidstrom can be the second Wing (and the second NHL player) to play in five different decades.

Hail to the Gordie Howes,
Hail to the Nicky Lidstroms,
Hail, hail to the Red Wings
The champions of the NHL.

May 18, 2011  11:14 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

dumbest thing I've heard in a long time.

Stick around, we can do better.

May 18, 2011  12:08 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

I disagree.Major changes aren't necessary - the core is still the core and doesn't need blowing up. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Lidstrom, Kronwall and Helm are all stalwarts the Wings have moving forward (if Nik returns...which I also expect). They need to firm up the d again. Ericsson took a step forward these playoffs but is still mistake prone. Salei wasn't a difference maker. Rafalski was a liability. They've got Hudler, Filppula and some other also-rans they can use to address that...and maybe even Rafalski if anyone will take him.

Just curious...but as the Wings fall from contender status how do you think that might play out for the players that continue to play for less money than what they may be worth on the open market elsewhere...?
The key for Lidstrom is for the Wings to trick him on his birthday and only put 35 candles on the cake.

Oh yeah....and Bourque is greater than Lidstrom....: )

May 18, 2011  12:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Not until we acquire him as a rental at the deadline next season, he will pull a Ray Bourque, except win a Cup the first year. The Wings will be long elimated from the playoffs, so they deal Lidstrom for Gustavsson (cause they obviously need a goalie for the future), and Lidstrom goes on to win the Cup with the Leafs. Luke Schenn wins the Conn, and Lidstrom and Schenn form an all-time great pairing.

Even I sometimes worry about you Argos...

May 18, 2011  12:11 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Do I get credit for the straight line?

LOL...who are you kidding?
You haven't been able to walk a straight line in decades. : )

 
May 18, 2011  12:50 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Just curious...but as the Wings fall from contender

LOL...who are YOU kidding?

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