Report: Cap headed above $60M

Good news for GMs indeed.

when exactly does the new cap number come out? 63.5 million, how fun, all the teams that managed to play themselves right up against the cap now get an additional 4 million to throw around + salaries will go up yet again. GREAT! If you're going to do a cap, then do it. By having the number go up every season you just reward the teams that bump themselves up against it.

And we criticize the Buttgoblin for what he is doing to the League.

Kill the Cap.

Slit it's throat.

Drink it's blood....

When is cap not a cap? Up is not necessarily always good.

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Originally posted 09:16 AM ET  05.24 by hbomb

Good news for GMs indeed.

and Richards.

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Originally posted 09:58 AM ET  05.24 by Oldtom in 7potatoes

When is cap not a cap? Up is not necessarily always good.

Up is good until it goes down. Then the teams that spend to the cap will scramble.

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Originally posted 10:00 AM ET  05.24 by Baun-ded=PH in MOTION

and Richards.

Yup!!

QUOTE(#5):

Originally posted 09:58 AM ET  05.24 by Oldtom in 7potatoes

Up is not necessarily always good.

In my personal experience, I never felt it was a bad thing...;)

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Originally posted 10:01 AM ET  05.24 by Baun-ded=PH in MOTION

In my personal experience, I never felt it was a bad thing...;)

Don't always (well almost never really) agree with Puckhead but I concur on this one. :-)

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Originally posted 10:01 AM ET  05.24 by hbomb

Up is good until it goes down. Then the teams that spend to the cap will scramble.

but if it keeps going up then there is no incentive to plan responsibly, because no matter how many bad contracts you hand out there will always be more cash. There's no responsibility. When teams have to start moving good players around because they mismanaged their funds (think Chicago after winning cup), then and only then would the cap actually be doing what it is supposed to. I don,t like the cap to begin with, I like it less now since it does nothing.

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Originally posted 10:18 AM ET  05.24 by puttin on the foil

but if it keeps going up then there is no incentive to plan responsibly, because no matter how many bad contracts you hand out there will always be more cash. There's no responsibility. When teams have to start moving good players around because they mismanaged their funds (think Chicago after winning cup), then and only then would the cap actually be doing what it is supposed to. I don,t like the cap to begin with, I like it less now since it does nothing.

And so if the Hawks had waited another year to win their cup...they may not have had to tear up the team...Is that about right Foil?

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Originally posted 10:29 AM ET  05.24 by Baun-ded=PH in MOTION

And so if the Hawks had waited another year to win their cup...they may not have had to tear up the team...Is that about right Foil?

well, had Talon not missed the date he would have saved a few roster spots...so mismanagement cost them. If you're in a hard cap, it should be that way. The spoils should go to the teams that manage their rosters and contracts the best.

The other thing is that a bunch of players got artificially inflated contracts that came from winning. That's the breaks. That's what happens when half of your roster has contracts that come up the same year.

Look at every team that is right up against the cap, many of them (including my Habs) are loaded with bad contracts, but by having a cap that constantly increases it offers no contract stability (prices keep going up because available funds go up, so then when the next player's contract comes up he wants what the other guy got, etc. and you end up in the same vicious cycle they had before the cap), plus it doesn't punish the teams for taking on really bad contracts (i.e: Gomez, Spacek in the case of the Habs).

All i'm saying is that if there is going to be a cap, it should act to reward those that are fiscally responsible and those who make good personnel decisions.

IMO Chicago having to rip apart their team is one of the few decent things the cap did. The team was managed horribly and they didn't plan their salary structure long-term, so they paid a price. Boo frickin hoo.

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Originally posted 10:18 AM ET  05.24 by puttin on the foil

but if it keeps going up .....

Right. If.....

Does anything money related go down these days?

Kill the cap.

Eliminate the hypocrisy.

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Originally posted 10:55 AM ET  05.24 by Hank Kingsley

Right. If.....Does anything money related go down these days?

Yes. My purchasing power with regards to my salary.

QUOTE(#9):

Originally posted 10:01 AM ET  05.24 by Baun-ded=PH in MOTION

In my personal experience, I never felt it was a bad thing...;)

As long as it doesn't go longer than 4 hours ;)

QUOTE(#11):

Originally posted 10:18 AM ET  05.24 by puttin on the foil

but if it keeps going up then there is no incentive to plan responsibly

The only thing that is going to happen is there is going to be another major CBA war. The cap has to be going up to much to quickly for many owners. Those owners will inform the rest it needs to be lowered, they will agree, and there will be another huge long fight, as the players are not going to want a cap to go down, considering they didn't even want the cap.

I like the Cap. Just look at MLB, you get teams to buy a championchip every yr. This helps stop that and helps smaller clubs compete.

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Originally posted 11:26 AM ET  05.24 by Nard Dog

The only thing that is going to happen is there is going to be another major CBA war. The cap has to be going up to much to quickly for many owners. Those owners will inform the rest it needs to be lowered, they will agree, and there will be another huge long fight, as the players are not going to want a cap to go down, considering they didn't even want the cap.

yah, if I was one of the cash strapped owners I would be peeved, teams like Boston, Philly, Montreal can play themselves up to the cap every season, then in the offseason they have cash to go run after free agents only because the cap went up. If the cap didn't budge there'd be fewer interested parties...

its a cop-out that gives every team purchasing power that they don't deserve.

I come back to my original point; making bad decisions and signing overrated players should hurt you...but in the current system it doesn't (and it never will), at this point just get rid of it. If the cap was subject to go down THEN we'd be looking at a system that fosters competition and fiscal restraint.