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08:22 AM ET 05.31 | The past two Stanley Cup finals have been strictly limited to four of the NHL's power markets -- Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston and Vancouver. You have to wonder: Does the 'Peg really know what it's getting into here? Winnipeg was too small for the NHL when the league left town in 1996. A lot has changed since, including the fact that the NHL is a much bigger enterprise. ... In this environment, it's worth asking if Winnipeg hockey fans truly understand how difficult it will be for the Jets, or whatever this team is to be called, to be successful in today's NHL. Probably not.

The Star

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May 31, 2011  08:30 AM ET

A lot has changed since,

...especially the exchange rate.

May 31, 2011  08:30 AM ET

Dumbest article I've seen in a long time. Probably ghost-written by the Buttgoblin.

May 31, 2011  08:40 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Dumbest article I've seen in a long time. Probably ghost-written by the Buttgoblin.

An extremely condescending and inflammatory article towards the city of Winnipeg and Jets fans.

May 31, 2011  08:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Dumbest article I've seen in a long time. Probably ghost-written by the Buttgoblin.

an excellent theory, one I fully support.

May 31, 2011  08:45 AM ET

Maybe they can get some advice from Florida, Atlanta, Phoenix and Columbus. You know, the pillars upon which the Dwarf has built this machine?

May 31, 2011  08:51 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

An extremely condescending and inflammatory article towards the city of Winnipeg and Jets fans.

yes it is. You could pull out the Winnpeg and put probably 12 other teams names in there, too. what is with the hatred towards Winnepeg?

May 31, 2011  09:17 AM ET

Its not a completely off-base point. The league is becoming a Big Boys club again, even with the stupid Cap and "parity". The city is smaller in population than any other city with an NHL team. With no real corporate backing. It will be almost 100% gate driven...with elevated prices on those tickets.

But Green Bay gets by in the NFL. They are a small market with intense winter conditions in a league that favours to rich even more than the NHL does. If GB can do it in football, I have every bit of faith that hockey can work in Winnipeg.

May 31, 2011  09:17 AM ET

I also noticed they could only go back two years. The third year would have taken them to Pittsburgh and that wouldn't fit the point they were trying to make. You might as well have a trailer on the article that says: I'm the Buttgoblin and I approve this message.

May 31, 2011  09:23 AM ET

lol....this is quite possibly the dumbest thing i've read in weeks. Yah, right....the billionaires investing into this franchise have less sense than a hack journalist at 'the Star'. Good grief Charlie Brown.

May 31, 2011  09:24 AM ET

either way, there's a press conference out of Winnipeg today, they are announcing the team. So whether the fans know what they are getting into or not, here they come (unfortunately not as the Jets)

May 31, 2011  09:26 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

yes it is. You could pull out the Winnpeg and put probably 12 other teams names in there, too. what is with the hatred towards Winnepeg?

exactly, its funny that nobody really questioned the return of hockey to Mineapolis...even though they managed to lose a hockey team without fighting a 0.65 exchange rate

May 31, 2011  09:33 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Dumbest article I've seen in a long time. Probably ghost-written by the Buttgoblin.

too many words and syllables for the little twerp

May 31, 2011  09:34 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Its not a completely off-base point. The league is becoming a Big Boys club again, even with the stupid Cap and "parity". The city is smaller in population than any other city with an NHL team. With no real corporate backing. It will be almost 100% gate driven...with elevated prices on those tickets.But Green Bay gets by in the NFL. They are a small market with intense winter conditions in a league that favours to rich even more than the NHL does. If GB can do it in football, I have every bit of faith that hockey can work in Winnipeg.

Spot on my friend

May 31, 2011  09:50 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Its not a completely off-base point. The league is becoming a Big Boys club again, even with the stupid Cap and "parity". The city is smaller in population than any other city with an NHL team. With no real corporate backing. It will be almost 100% gate driven...with elevated prices on those tickets.

But Green Bay gets by in the NFL. They are a small market with intense winter conditions in a league that favours to rich even more than the NHL does. If GB can do it in football, I have every bit of faith that hockey can work in Winnipeg.

I heard they're negotiating with one of Manitoba's biggest industrial giants...

"Crazy Sammy's Sandbags."

May 31, 2011  09:59 AM ET
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exactly, its funny that nobody really questioned the return of hockey to Mineapolis...even though they managed to lose a hockey team without fighting a 0.65 exchange rate

I think a lot of people (myself included) never understood the North Stars getting yanked out of Minnesota for the land of the death penalties, college football, Jerry Jones and GW Bush.
So in that respect, Minny getting a team back was forgone - just like when Modell pulled the Browns out of Cleveland.
Sadly, money is the king, and loyalty to fans, or a city means very little in some cases.

May 31, 2011  10:39 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Its not a completely off-base point. The league is becoming a Big Boys club again, even with the stupid Cap and "parity". The city is smaller in population than any other city with an NHL team. With no real corporate backing. It will be almost 100% gate driven...with elevated prices on those tickets.But Green Bay gets by in the NFL. They are a small market with intense winter conditions in a league that favours to rich even more than the NHL does. If GB can do it in football, I have every bit of faith that hockey can work in Winnipeg.

I agree with most of this, no one doubts the fans will come out and come out big time, but you need the big corporate sponsors, you need the rich business's and businessmen buying the luxury boxes to make it. If they get the business money, they will succeed, if they don't in a few years the owners will be saying the need a new arena with more luxury boxes and people to fill them to stay competitive.
The big difference between the NHL and the NFL is the NFL is money sharing revenue. Plus the team is owned by the Fans. You can't really compare the Pack to the Peg. The NFL is guaranteed to make money, the NHL is not.

May 31, 2011  10:55 AM ET

allow me a semi digression, though I will try to make the connection:
I was watching the UEFA Championship game saturday...the two (2) best teams played, and the best team (by far) won. One (1) of the best teams I ever saw on a given day. I started thinking about the NHL, and how location and indeed contraction would be such a boon to the league. You put the game where it's ALWAYS popular (saturday's match was in england...they couldn't have had it in a better place), put a good product (less teams mean less places to put waste of space guys) out there and watch what happens.
Oh well, not while The Poison Dwarf reigns in this land

May 31, 2011  11:08 AM ET

Thrashers to Winnipeg-Coyotes to Kansas or Seattle Cmon Gary you could get two things right (mind numbingly slowly) but right just the same in a one year period.

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May 31, 2011  11:09 AM ET

Did anyone mention that True North S and E, the new owners, are bankrolled by one of the richest men in North America? David Thompson is a multi-billionaire: net worth $22.1 billion.

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