Nine teams violating MLB debt rule

Paid for by the friends of Frank McCourt?

And we wonder why our financial institutions have to be propped up or bailed out by our federal government? It's because they recklessly toss money, like it's candy, to frauds like Frank McCourt.

Tigers and Phillies? Really.

QUOTE(#5):

Originally posted 08:38 AM ET  06.03 by ChiSoxFan

Tigers and Phillies? Really.

That's what I was thinking, well as far as the Phillies anyway. The Tigers lost neary 3/4 of a million in attenedance a couple of years ago but I thought that was coming back. But it's a confidential meeting yet it's appearing in the media.

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Originally posted 08:40 AM ET  06.03 by Mongo Alex

That's what I was thinking, well as far as the Phillies anyway. The Tigers lost neary 3/4 of a million in attenedance a couple of years ago but I thought that was coming back. But it's a confidential meeting yet it's appearing in the media.

the confidential ones seem to always make their way out

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Originally posted 08:41 AM ET  06.03 by Why So Serious?

Lets blame the Yankees for this mess......

Ok but remember it was your idea :)

QUOTE(#5):

Originally posted 08:38 AM ET  06.03 by ChiSoxFan

Tigers and Phillies? Really.

There's no way in God's green earth that the Phillies are losing money. If they are then somebody is really screwing something up.

All those other teams aren't struggling to make basic payroll in May... McCourt needs to go...

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Originally posted 09:12 AM ET  06.03 by Lex-LOU-thor

Didn't say they were losing money - only said they are out of compliance. I think it has to do with cash reserves for assuring stability.

Just to be on that list should be an embarrassment to that organization.

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Originally posted 09:29 AM ET  06.03 by Lex-LOU-thor

Maybe not - the Phillies have the second highest payroll this year atNew York Yankees $ 202 m.Philadelphia Phillies $ 172 m.Boston Red Sox $ 161 m.Los Angeles Angels $ 138 m.Chicago White Sox $ 127 m.Chicago Cubs $ 125 m.New York Mets $ 118 m.San Francisco Giants $ 118 m.Minnesota Twins $ 112 m.Detroit Tigers $ 105 m.St. Louis Cardinals $ 105 m.Los Angeles Dodgers $ 104 m.Texas Rangers $ 92 m.The rest are under 90 m.Some of the teams listed are in the top Salary range - but don't have the draw like the Yankmees and Botox - yes even the Phillies don't match up that fan base. So I can understand given the outpouring of salaries thus pushing reserves to be a little stretched.

Maybe some of the teams, but I disagree about the Phillies fan base not being able to match up with Boston.

They are in the 4th largest media market in the country, behind only New York, LA., and Chicago. Boston is 7th.
They have a beautiful new ball park, that they fill every night.
They have just as strong a fan base as Boston, and it seems to be getting bigger. They were #2 in total attendance last year, only behind the Yankees.

Another words, there is no reason the Phillies can't keep up with anybody in baseball (excluding the Yankees) when it comes to payroll.

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Originally posted 09:08 AM ET  06.03 by jnorman41

There's no way in God's green earth that the Phillies are losing money.

If they keep doing stupid shat like giving Ryan Howard $25m/yr until he's 53 years old, they will be.

We have huge problems in America with spending well beyond our means....at the personal level all the way up to the government, who is "leading" the way. No surprise here that baseball teams are just as stupid.

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Originally posted 09:08 AM ET  06.03 by jnorman41

There's no way in God's green earth that the Phillies are losing money. If they are then somebody is really screwing something up.

Leverageing a capitol investment is normal and healthy corporate behavior. they have not listed the debt limits set for MLB teams so this is pretty meaningless other than to imply that McCourt is getting screwed. Maybe he is and maybe he is not. It depends on how much worse he is out of compliance and what that level is...

QUOTE(#17):

Originally posted 09:29 AM ET  06.03 by Lex-LOU-thor

Maybe not - the Phillies have the second highest payroll this year atNew York Yankees $ 202 m.Philadelphia Phillies $ 172 m.Boston Red Sox $ 161 m.Los Angeles Angels $ 138 m.Chicago White Sox $ 127 m.Chicago Cubs $ 125 m.New York Mets $ 118 m.San Francisco Giants $ 118 m.Minnesota Twins $ 112 m.Detroit Tigers $ 105 m.St. Louis Cardinals $ 105 m.Los Angeles Dodgers $ 104 m.Texas Rangers $ 92 m.The rest are under 90 m.Some of the teams listed are in the top Salary range - but don't have the draw like the Yankmees and Botox - yes even the Phillies don't match up that fan base. So I can understand given the outpouring of salaries thus pushing reserves to be a little stretched.

Phils are first in attendance bud. Hardly "not having the draw". I guess I should stop forgetting that it's a two team league...