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08:40 AM ET 06.17 | Among the first orders of Peter Chiarelli's offseason business is to look at unrestricted free agents Michael Ryder and Tomas Kaberle. Both could be back, but if so, it likely would be at steep salary discounts for the pair, both of whom are enigmatic and pricey. If Kaberle wants to work for something around $2 million a year for a season or two, then maybe he'll have a deal. If not, enter rookie Jordan Caron. ... Like Ryder, if Kaberle will take, say, a 50 percent rollback to around $2 million, he could be re-upped for a year or two. If not, enter rookie Steven Kampfer or Matt Bartkowski. Chiarelli's toughest nut could be Brad Marchand, who, fittingly, developed as the club's toughest nut in the postseason.

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June 17, 2011  08:46 AM ET

I love how quickly everything turns to money so quickly after winning the cup. If it was me in their skates, I would take a pay hit in order to continue to build on this success. Let's face it, $2Million is still a pile of dough especially if you can continue to reap in the bonus benefits of playoffs.

June 17, 2011  08:53 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

I love how quickly everything turns to money so quickly after winning the cup. If it was me in their skates, I would take a pay hit in order to continue to build on this success. Let's face it, $2Million is still a pile of dough especially if you can continue to reap in the bonus benefits of playoffs.

On the other side of the coin, you're name is already on the Cup go for the big bucks now.

Actually if that's the only problems Chiarelli has he's in pretty good shape. Give Kaberle a "take it or leave it offer" of 2 million. If he doesn't take it no biggie.

June 17, 2011  08:54 AM ET

Yeah it is funny how quickly speculation starts. The Bruins are certainly not in the doom and gloom this summer as much as Chicago was last summer. I don't seem Marchand going anywhere. If anyone goes, it would probably be Ryder. I can't wait to watch their parade on tv tomorrow.

June 17, 2011  08:56 AM ET
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On the other side of the coin, you're name is already on the Cup go for the big bucks now. Actually if that's the only problems Chiarelli has he's in pretty good shape. Give Kaberle a "take it or leave it offer" of 2 million. If he doesn't take it no biggie.

I wasn't all that impressed with Kaberle. He was more of a defensive liability and not good on the PP.

June 17, 2011  08:59 AM ET
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Yeah it is funny how quickly speculation starts. The Bruins are certainly not in the doom and gloom this summer as much as Chicago was last summer. I don't seem Marchand going anywhere. If anyone goes, it would probably be Ryder. I can't wait to watch their parade on tv tomorrow.

Hey, maybe the fans should riot and really show Vancouver how to do it properly. He!! they schooled them on the ice, they should school them in back aisles. KIDDING. It will be one heck of a party. I hope that Sam Adams doesn't run out of beverages....on another note, I gotta get me one of their beer mugs, but they won't ship to Canada.

Grumble...grumble

June 17, 2011  09:00 AM ET

Uh, there is no chance that Marchand is going anywhere. He is an RFA, which really limits what options are out there.

Unless Toronto wants to fork over a couple of #1's and a #2 again......

June 17, 2011  09:06 AM ET

Also, with Knight, Spooner, Caron and whomever this #9 pick that Boston has coming up next week is, they have a lot of depth in the forward department. Defense is a little thinner but with Kampfer and Alexandrov, there is a little future there. Realistically, Kaberle was a #6 defenseman in Boston this year and his value on the market took a nosedive.

Ryder is an interesting item, he's still fairly young, but is so streaky. He's a 3rd or 4th line player in Boston at this point, but I'm not sure if he's willing to take 3rd or 4th line money.

One huge factor is the health of Savard. All indications is that he still isn't skating and it could very well be that he is done. If that is the case, that frees up another 4 million. Add to that the 3.5 million for Kaberle, the 4 mil for Ryder is a wash with Savard being on the LTIR, and Recchi coming off the books at around 1.5 million, that gives them 9 million + the new cap number which I believe is another 1 or 2 million over last year.

If they just sign Marchand at 2.5 million a year for 3 years, that still gives them 8.5 million to play with. If it is a couple of rookies that come up, Caron, Knight or Spooner to replace Recchi and Kampfer or Alexandrov to replace Kaberle, that is very short money against the cap.

All in all, they are in really good shape for having just Won The Stanley Cup.

June 17, 2011  09:12 AM ET

Agreed Shadenfreude. Compared to the fire sale the Balckhawks had and even the shedding of talent the Pens had, Boston is doing great.

June 17, 2011  09:12 AM ET
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Uh, there is no chance that Marchand is going anywhere. He is an RFA, which really limits what options are out there. Unless Toronto wants to fork over a couple of #1's and a #2 again......

Good point, I was just going to say the same...that Marchand's a restricted free agent.
It's very rare that RFAs get signed by another team because it costs too much.
There no chance the Bruins do not sign this kid, anyway.
The headline is misleading...the only UFAs are Kaberle and Ryder...hardly the breakup that the Hawks had, and the Canucks ironically have a lot more that they won't be able to keep (although trading Luongo will free up a lot of cap room - regardless of how the team thinks of him, the Nuck fans are reacting, they can't keep him)

June 17, 2011  09:12 AM ET
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One huge factor is the health of Savard. All indications is that he still isn't skating and it could very well be that he is done. If that is the case, that frees up another 4 million. Add to that the 3.5 million for Kaberle, the 4 mil for Ryder is a wash with Savard being on the LTIR, and Recchi coming off the books at around 1.5 million, that gives them 9 million + the new cap number which I believe is another 1 or 2 million over last year.If they just sign Marchand at 2.5 million a year for 3 years, that still gives them 8.5 million to play with. If it is a couple of rookies that come up, Caron, Knight or Spooner to replace Recchi and Kampfer or Alexandrov to replace Kaberle, that is very short money against the cap.All in all, they are in really good shape for having just Won The Stanley Cup.

I agree with you Schadenfreude....in most of it... Get what ever you can for Kaberle... Sign Marchand at between 2-3 mil ..... Savard is done. That gives them money to spare and they'll be fine.

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June 17, 2011  09:27 AM ET
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Good point, I was just going to say the same...that Marchand's a restricted free agent.It's very rare that RFAs get signed by another team because it costs too much.There no chance the Bruins do not sign this kid, anyway.The headline is misleading...the only UFAs are Kaberle and Ryder...hardly the breakup that the Hawks had, and the Canucks ironically have a lot more that they won't be able to keep (although trading Luongo will free up a lot of cap room - regardless of how the team thinks of him, the Nuck fans are reacting, they can't keep him)

Problem with Luongo is that he is signed thru the 2018-2019 season at 5.3 million a season. That kind of contract is going to be awfully hard to move unless they take back a bad contract that may have larger dollars in shorter years.

The only other option they really have is the Wade Redden option and hope like hell he just takes a buyout.

June 17, 2011  09:27 AM ET
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I wasn't all that impressed with Kaberle. He was more of a defensive liability and not good on the PP.

I respectfully disagree...but it's all in the perception of expectations.
Kaberle in the finals was actually really solid.
The expectation that he was going to come on the team and bring all kinds of points was unrealistic...and was a fan/media expectation, not a team expectation.
Kaberle really pushed too much for a period of time in the first round and that's why he made mistakes.
He was actually tied with Seidenburg for most points by a defenseman in the playoffs.
I don't really understand the hate from fans and media in Boston. Toronto plays a totally different system and the Bruins even came out at the trade and said they didn't expect or want Kaberle to play the same style as he did in Toronto.
He also had one of the great hits of the series in game 6.

June 17, 2011  09:30 AM ET
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I wonder how Kaberle really feels right now..sure, he won the cup. But he was as irrelevant as they come throughout the post-season. On the other hand, by leaving Toronto and seeing his production literally bottom out, he's cost himself at LEAST $2 million per, if not more, in a new contract with any team. This may turn into a precautionary tale for players being asked to waive their no-trade clauses.

He's made a lot of good money over the years in Toronto and I'm sure that getting the cup may be worth it to him in the end.

I know a lot of people like to say that the B's got robbed in that deal, but in reality they gave up the #30 pick in a draft that isn't that good at all and the #8 or #9 center on their depth chart.

The B's got the #32 pick in a very good draft along with the #2 pick last year, so the 2nd rounder they got make actually, in the long run, turn out much better than the #1 that they gave up because of the depth of the draft last year as compared to this year.

June 17, 2011  09:34 AM ET
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I agree with you Schadenfreude....in most of it... Get what ever you can for Kaberle... Sign Marchand at between 2-3 mil ..... Savard is done. That gives them money to spare and they'll be fine.

I agree Savard is done...in Boston anyway.
I just don't know where they put him on this roster.
You can't take Krejci off that top line now, and you can't take Bergeron off the second line. And you don't pay a guy this much money to play on the third line.
I really like Savard, but unless he moves to the wing I don't see where he fits.
Plus, the guy is likely one hit from the end of his career, anyway.

June 17, 2011  09:36 AM ET
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I wasn't all that impressed with Kaberle. He was more of a defensive liability and not good on the PP.

Yeah...defensive liability...He had half the number of points as Centre's Krejci & Sedin. He was a plus 8 and how many goals did the Nucks score in 7 games? 8?
But yeah...I see what you're sayin...real liability.

June 17, 2011  09:36 AM ET
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I agree Savard is done...in Boston anyway.I just don't know where they put him on this roster.You can't take Krejci off that top line now, and you can't take Bergeron off the second line. And you don't pay a guy this much money to play on the third line.I really like Savard, but unless he moves to the wing I don't see where he fits.Plus, the guy is likely one hit from the end of his career, anyway.

If he couldn't go to Vancouver, he may already be done. It's sad to see, because before the Cooke hit, he was one of the best centers in the game.

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June 17, 2011  09:37 AM ET
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If he couldn't go to Vancouver, he may already be done. It's sad to see, because before the Cooke hit, he was one of the best centers in the game.

When I say "go to Vancouver", I'm specifically talking about just being there in the press box, not actually playing.

 
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