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08:09 AM ET 06.24 | The last time Jim Leyland neared the end of his contract, in 2009, he was awarded a new deal. The exact date was June 19, 2009. Leyland signed a two-year deal to manage through 2011. End of uncertainty. End of discussion. Different than now. Both Leyland and general manager David Dombrowski are unsigned beyond this season. If Tigers owner Mike Ilitch was certain that he wanted both to return, he would have granted them extensions already. I'd be surprised if Ilitch changed managers. I don't think Leyland deserves to be fired. But Ilitch evidently wants to see more -- and with good reason, considering that the Tigers under Leyland have played much better in the first half than the second. It's the big leagues, folks. Even for a manager as accomplished as Leyland, it's about results.

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June 24, 2011  09:15 AM ET
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He should just pull a Jim Riggleman.

Noooooooooo!!!!

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June 24, 2011  09:39 AM ET

D.C. can have him. Illitch has done just about everything an owner can do. He has put tons of money into this team. Dombrowski and Leyland have to be held accountable. They have had plenty of time to get this team into the playoffs, and except for 2006, have failed. Time to show some real progress or move on. This is the year that the Tigers should win the Central division. If they don't it's time to bring in new blood.

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June 24, 2011  10:46 AM ET
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There is no clear front runner for that shoddy division. By the end of the year, some lucky blind squirrel of a team will stumble into the playoffs and look exhausted in their first round blowout.

Yeah but Leyland and his old school (Steroid Era) trusting of Vets that never used to seem to age like they do now has been massivly detrimental to the team...

I am looking at you Bandon Inge, Magglio Ordonez, Ryan Rayburn, and Carlos Guillen.

And for all the money Detroit has blindly poured into this team what do we have to show for it?
Nothing. Dombrowski has made as many bad trades as good. And leyland may very well still be a good manager- but he is killing me...
When we hired him- he came in and took us to a World Series- since then- nada... Its time for new blood. If they bring him back it had better only be a 1 year deal to then hire back Gibby to the Tigers from the D-Backs... If we can get him back anyhow...

Basically- if the Tigers do it- fine- bring him back- for a year. But in such a winnible division like the Central- if we keep losing games waiting for constantly declining players to magically turn it around while we keep losing games- well that blind faith needs to be tossed as well as those guys form the line-up...

June 24, 2011  10:49 AM ET

I think Illitch should pull a Leyland and unnecessarily rest Jimmy for a few games. The Tigers can have Rayburn manage the team. He couldn???t do any worse than the rude, mumbling, stubborn, senile old goat.

June 24, 2011  10:55 AM ET
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D.C. can have him. Illitch has done just about everything an owner can do. He has put tons of money into this team. Dombrowski and Leyland have to be held accountable. They have had plenty of time to get this team into the playoffs, and except for 2006, have failed. Time to show some real progress or move on. This is the year that the Tigers should win the Central division. If they don't it's time to bring in new blood.

I blame Dave D more so than Leyland. Name one solid infield prospect the Tigers have developed over the last 5 years outside of Avila.

Name one outfield prospect they have developed over that time. Boesch could be one, but given his 2nd half swoon last season you can't say its obvious he will good for an entire season.

Sizemore was supposed to be the next starting 2B, he's in Oakland now. Danny Worth and Don Kelly are nice utility player types, but not good enough to play everyday for any extended period of time. Dave D has done a solid job drafting pitchers, but that's it.

Also his trade record and contract decisions are 50/50 at best. For every plus trade (Cabrera/Willis for Andrew Miller, Maybin etc) there is a major gaffe like Renteria for Jurrjeins. Nate Robertson's 3 year $21 year contract, Willis 3 yr $30 million extension before he pitched one game as an AL starter. Not offering Polanco arbitration at least. The list goes on and on.....

June 24, 2011  10:57 AM ET
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There is no clear front runner for that shoddy division. By the end of the year, some lucky blind squirrel of a team will stumble into the playoffs and look exhausted in their first round blowout.

I think the starters Chicago and Detroit has could be a tough test in the 1st round. Both teams have potentially very good 1-3 starters.

June 24, 2011  11:14 AM ET
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I think the starters Chicago and Detroit has could be a tough test in the 1st round. Both teams have potentially very good 1-3 starters.

Agreed... With the "potentially" part mostly...

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June 24, 2011  11:48 AM ET
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Agreed... With the "potentially" part mostly...

yep, definitely a key word. I thought Scherzer was a sure thing to post a solid ERA in the 3's this season and the main question mark being Porcello. That's turned upside down and Scherzer is a big question mark right now. He hasn't looked good in at least 6 weeks, but IF he regains his 2010 form, he's a very good starter.

June 24, 2011  11:54 AM ET
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Ordonez and Guillen. <laughs>

I'm ok with Maggs, for the most part he's produced since he's been with the Tigers. The bad 1st half in 2009 was due to his wife having cancer, then he bounced back that season finished hot and was really good in 2010 to he busted his ankle. The ankle was definitely not close to 100% at the start of this season so his bat was just awful.

Since his return a week ago he's driving the ball really well, sometimes right at an infielder though. Over time he'll get his fair share of knocks like the HR in LA.

Guillen is the main guy I have a problem with, but again Dave D gave him a 4 yr $48 million contract, was he really worth that type of coin? Thankfully he's not fully recovered his microfacture surgery and can't play yet... even when he returns it will be for how long, 10 games before another injury.

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June 24, 2011  12:31 PM ET

Leyland seems to have lost his "love for the game" and his "pet player" management style is really annoying, not to mention detrimental, as he generally falls in love with mediocrity - rarely plays Santiago, who has been a workhorse for years, Raeburn at 2nd is a joke, pulling Porcello for the last inning of a shutout or with 1 out left in the 5th with the lead, etc., etc. It's like watching an elementary gym class.

June 24, 2011  12:51 PM ET
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Leyland seems to have lost his "love for the game" and his "pet player" management style is really annoying, not to mention detrimental, as he generally falls in love with mediocrity - rarely plays Santiago, who has been a workhorse for years, Raeburn at 2nd is a joke, pulling Porcello for the last inning of a shutout or with 1 out left in the 5th with the lead, etc., etc. It's like watching an elementary gym class.

Or when he surrounds him with such solid infield defence in Colorado like Rayburn, Peralta, Miguel, and Avilia startin his first day at 3rd base...

Seriously?

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June 24, 2011  03:14 PM ET
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Yes, very.

Its sick...
Its like putting AJ at 3rd, Quinten at SS, and Dunn at 2nd...
LOL!
Ugh...

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June 24, 2011  04:19 PM ET
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Or when he surrounds him with such solid infield defence in Colorado like Rayburn, Peralta, Miguel, and Avilia startin his first day at 3rd base...Seriously?

Ya that was some lineup. It was bats at all costs, crazy thing is Raburn's bat has been awful and as we all now his glove has been even worse.

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