Giants in desperate need of a spark

How 'bout playing for the money you make? Interesting concept.

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Originally posted 09:03 AM ET  08.11 by Prayin' Utleys

"Uh, excuse me? The World Series champs? With rattled confidence? How can that be?"Well let's see, they were an absolute FLUKE last year (great pitching, NO bats) and this year they acquire a MET (of all things) for two months.I think the reason for their futility spiral is the ass-whoopin' Philly gave them in their own ballpark, givng them a taste of what the future holds IF they make the playoffs.Frisco fans should be happy they got one last year and resign themselves to the fact that their team is the tallest midget in a mediocre division.

Currently, they are the second tallest midget, as they are now in 2nd place.

I respect the Giants. Their offense clicked last year. Huff, Ross, and Torres are no where close to last year. Posey and Sanchez are injured. Renteria and Uribe are gone.

Beltran, Cabrera, and Keppinger were nice acquisitions but they needed a couple of MAJOR pieces. I am not really sure why they gave Wheeler for Beltran, when they could have traded Wheeler and another prospect for Pence (I am happy they didn't).

QUOTE(#2):

Originally posted 09:03 AM ET  08.11 by Prayin' Utleys

"Uh, excuse me? The World Series champs? With rattled confidence? How can that be?"Well let's see, they were an absolute FLUKE last year (great pitching, NO bats) and this year they acquire a MET (of all things) for two months.I think the reason for their futility spiral is the ass-whoopin' Philly gave them in their own ballpark, givng them a taste of what the future holds IF they make the playoffs.Frisco fans should be happy they got one last year and resign themselves to the fact that their team is the tallest midget in a mediocre division.

I am a Philly fan, but it wasn't an ass whooping. The Phils basically beat the Giants at their own game. The Phils eeked out some runs, then let their pitching shut down the Giants bats.

Ross, Huff, Renteria, Uribe, Posey, Torres had HUGE postseasons.

If the Phils somehow learned to not throw a strike to Cody Ross last season, they probably go to the World Series.

Betcha Lincecum has a "spark"

QUOTE(#7):

Originally posted 09:42 AM ET  08.11 by VLO1977

I am a Philly fan, but it wasn't an ass whooping. The Phils basically beat the Giants at their own game. The Phils eeked out some runs, then let their pitching shut down the Giants bats.Ross, Huff, Renteria, Uribe, Posey, Torres had HUGE postseasons. If the Phils somehow learned to not throw a strike to Cody Ross last season, they probably go to the World Series.

Yeah, I'm still a tad pissed off that Ross wasn't thrown at towards the end of the NLCS.

I agree with the fact that the Giants caught fire last October. The way they hit complimented their superb pitching enough to win them a title. But, I don't believe in flukes when it comes to baseball. If one team catches fire and one shuts down, it's part of the game.

I do, however think that taking 3 of 4, including one game of getting beaten up on, is fair enough to be considered an ass whooping. As a Phillies fan, you should know all the **** the national media was spouting about San Fran since the NLCS.

As a Phillies fan, I look at the fact that we took 4 of 7 (Hey, that's enough to win the NLCS) without throwing our one of our top three pitchers. I look at the fact that, over 7 said games, we outscored them 24-12. Their most offensively productive game came against what many in the city consider a number 6 or 7 starter, in which they scored 4 runs, 3 earned in 6 1/3... Yeah, I like to consider it, especially the series in San Fran, an ass whooping.

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Originally posted 10:09 AM ET  08.11 by JoeyBAPs: And a cup o' Joe

Yeah, I'm still a tad pissed off that Ross wasn't thrown at towards the end of the NLCS.

Typical Philly mongoloid.

QUOTE(#2):

Originally posted 09:03 AM ET  08.11 by Prayin' Utleys

"Uh, excuse me? The World Series champs? With rattled confidence? How can that be?"Well let's see, they were an absolute FLUKE last year (great pitching, NO bats) and this year they acquire a MET (of all things) for two months.I think the reason for their futility spiral is the ass-whoopin' Philly gave them in their own ballpark, givng them a taste of what the future holds IF they make the playoffs.Frisco fans should be happy they got one last year and resign themselves to the fact that their team is the tallest midget in a mediocre division.

I think the writing is on the wall as to what the post season looks like this year. Which should make you very happy.

Hey, at least flip me a quarter with all the tallest midget talk....

I need to make up for my losses in the fantasy league.

I guess Beltran isn't the answer after all....

I wouldn't have thrown at Ross for being productive........ like Ramon Ramirez did at Victorino (just saying). But I would not have had another pitch near the inside of the plate.

QUOTE(#13):

Originally posted 10:42 AM ET  08.11 by Prayin' Utleys

Thank you Yogi.

I'm going to piss myself laughing when the Phillies fail to win the World Series and am going to taunt you mercilessly every day for the year afterward.

QUOTE(#2):

Originally posted 09:03 AM ET  08.11 by Prayin' Utleys

"Uh, excuse me? The World Series champs? With rattled confidence? How can that be?"Well let's see, they were an absolute FLUKE last year (great pitching, NO bats) and this year they acquire a MET (of all things) for two months.I think the reason for their futility spiral is the ass-whoopin' Philly gave them in their own ballpark, givng them a taste of what the future holds IF they make the playoffs.Frisco fans should be happy they got one last year and resign themselves to the fact that their team is the tallest midget in a mediocre division.

Still bitter? You Philz fans just can't accept the fact that you WERE BEATEN SOUNDLY last season and watched the eventual champs celebrate on your field. Get over it.

You're the Yankees of the NL writing checks hoping to win titles.

BTW....saying that winning a World Series is a "fluke" speaks to your overall ignorance.

No fluke in my opinion. I just also think that guys like Ross, Huff, Uribe, Renteria had extremely hot streaks all at once. That is the recipe for winning. But you could also have Utley, Howard, Werth, and Rollins go cold all at once. All part of baseball.

I don't view winning 4 out of 7 over the Giants in the regular season as a reason to celebrate. And the good thing is that I know the Phils don't either.

I think they underestimated the Giants last year in the playoffs. They had basically shut down the Reds, who had an amazing offense. I think there was over confidence on the Phils part.

And that mistake is fueling everything the Phils are doing this year... from the front office down to the field.

QUOTE(#19):

Originally posted 11:17 AM ET  08.11 by VLO1977

No fluke in my opinion. I just also think that guys like Ross, Huff, Uribe, Renteria had extremely hot streaks all at once. That is the recipe for winning. But you could also have Utley, Howard, Werth, and Rollins go cold all at once. All part of baseball.

I completely agree. Every Giants fan has been complaining about their lack of offense for over (2) seasons now. They got hot at the right time and there's no debating how good their staff is.

Personally, I do feel like Philly is the class of the NL.....they were last year too. But in baseball, it's often times a matter of who heats up in mid-to-late Sept. and goes on a run to win it all.

At any rate, saying that winning a W.S. is a fluke is ignorant at best.