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USGA drooling over '17 Open at tough Erin Hills

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10:03 AM ET 08.27 | What seemed improbable back then is coming to fruition this week. Erin Hills, located just west of downtown Milwaukee, is hosting the U.S. Amateur. The tournament is a prelude and test run to the U.S. Open, which is scheduled to be played there in 2017. The United States Golf Assn. went fairly easy with the pin placements during the first two rounds of match play, resulting in some low scores. The USGA also is learning about the place. But tellingly, USGA Executive Director Mike Davis told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, "This is a course we could set up so that 15-over par would win a U.S. Open. I'm not kidding you."

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August 27, 2011  03:02 PM ET

15 over par! Now that would be an interesting tournament to watch.

August 27, 2011  06:42 PM ET

I'm in!

August 27, 2011  08:33 PM ET

I can hear the pro's whining now, it not fair, we can't make birdies, whine, whine....

The USGA needs to do something withe the ball so these guys can't ruin old courses.

And btw why don't we have a Tiger on the pres cup thread? There's one that would get a lot of reponse.

August 28, 2011  08:23 AM ET

As long as they're not going to Whistling Straights.

I still think Pete Dye should be shackled to a train for the rest of his worthless life for calling a postage stamp-sized of dust a bunker.

That guy is not going to heaven.

August 28, 2011  03:37 PM ET

15-over to win? Now THAT is a tournament the average hacker could get interested in!!

August 28, 2011  03:39 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

.And btw why don't we have a Tiger on the pres cup thread? There's one that would get a lot of reponse.

I think that every possible joke about tw and his (lack of) game has been made. Everyone knows this was done for TV ratings.

August 29, 2011  08:33 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I can hear the pro's whining now, it not fair, we can't make birdies, whine, whine....The USGA needs to do something withe the ball so these guys can't ruin old courses.And btw why don't we have a Tiger on the pres cup thread? There's one that would get a lot of reponse.

The USGA started the mess by allowing the technology to unchecked, giving us pros that regularly hit 300-yard drive and 150-yard 9-irons. Most of the USGA execs probably had heart-attacks when McIlroy shot -16 at Congressional this year (-16? Blasphemy!).

The equipment keeps improving and the players practice and work out like never before so scores should go down unless the USGA starts demanding 8,500-yard course for a course to hold an open.

Personally, I can't wait to see how things will play out at Merion in '13. They can't add 100 yards to every hole there and they can't make it a par 68 course either (well technically they can, it would just look awkward). The course will par at roughly 6,800 yards. With a course that short, expect 3-foot high rough, fairways about 12 yards wide and greens slicker than a marble table.

August 29, 2011  09:16 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

As long as they're not going to Whistling Straights.I still think Pete Dye should be shackled to a train for the rest of his worthless life for calling a postage stamp-sized of dust a bunker.That guy is not going to heaven.

With you on that, to a point. I consider Robert Trent Jones and his sons worse offenders for all the hack jobs they did on some great courses at the behest of the USGA.

August 29, 2011  11:45 AM ET
QUOTE(#13):

The USGA started the mess by allowing the technology to unchecked, giving us pros that regularly hit 300-yard drive and 150-yard 9-irons.

Driver technology really has added length to their games but most pro hit a lot lower lofted driver than us average hacks like 8.5 and 7.5. Also their irons are built different so the 8 iron they hit 180 yds. is probably closer to our 6 iron. They might add a half inch of lenth and maybe subtract 1 to 2 degrees of loft so their stats can be deceiving.

August 29, 2011  03:04 PM ET

Watched some of the Am...Looks like an interesting course.

August 29, 2011  08:51 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

With you on that, to a point. I consider Robert Trent Jones and his sons worse offenders for all the hack jobs they did on some great courses at the behest of the USGA.

Actually, as a friend pointed out to me Sunday when I made the comment, the officials at WS should have been the ones to blame not Johnson or Dye. The well-defined bunkers should have been marked for all players and the ones the size of a toilet should have been declared waste bunkers. The fault lies with tour officials. Although, I do think that Pete Dye is more concerned with his own stupid ego than with the layout and where waste areas are. For Johnson's part, he took it like a man. I like that kid more and more.

August 30, 2011  10:09 AM ET

The tougher, the better, but watch those pro's whine endlessly about it.

August 30, 2011  04:00 PM ET

Jonis,

I went and slapped those Razr's around.

I'm with you, nice sticks.

I gotta get fitted for those sucker's though.

They don't work real well for me in the generic sense.

What shafts were in your sampling?

August 30, 2011  08:46 PM ET
QUOTE(#26):

Jonis,I went and slapped those Razr's around.I'm with you, nice sticks.I gotta get fitted for those sucker's though.They don't work real well for me in the generic sense.What shafts were in your sampling?

I think they're called some kind of (should I say cheap) uniflex. But, they worked for me.

The fitting thing is an issue with me also. I had my Mizunos fitted years ago and they were one degree flat. I definitely need that. However, the homey at Carl's told me that how a person sets the club at address doesn't necessarily dictate the lie because even if the toe sticks up at address it may not be the same at impact. I think they have you hit on tape or paper to see what the finish looks like. Since I'm the SOB that will be handing out the $700 worth of scheckles, if I want it flat--that's the way Callaway will make them for me. I'm going to give my old complete set to my 28 year old daughter: bag, putter, irons and my old iron woods. Then I'm going to get a new ultra-light bag, Oddessy putter, and the sweet Razors. I can't wait until next spring. If you're ever up in Michigan next summer look me up: we'll play a gorgeous course (my treat), I'll bring you home, give you a glass of Cabernet and a first class cigar.

August 30, 2011  11:08 PM ET
QUOTE(#27):

I think they're called some kind of (should I say cheap) uniflex. But, they worked for me.The fitting thing is an issue with me also. I had my Mizunos fitted years ago and they were one degree flat. I definitely need that. However, the homey at Carl's told me that how a person sets the club at address doesn't necessarily dictate the lie because even if the toe sticks up at address it may not be the same at impact. I think they have you hit on tape or paper to see what the finish looks like. Since I'm the SOB that will be handing out the $700 worth of scheckles, if I want it flat--that's the way Callaway will make them for me. I'm going to give my old complete set to my 28 year old daughter: bag, putter, irons and my old iron woods. Then I'm going to get a new ultra-light bag, Oddessy putter, and the sweet Razors. I can't wait until next spring. If you're ever up in Michigan next summer look me up: we'll play a gorgeous course (my treat), I'll bring you home, give you a glass of Cabernet and a first class cigar.

You're on, Jonis. Cab and cigars after I farm one of your fine courses. Nice.

I'll extend the same offer. If you're ever in Texas (although I'll never understand why you'd want to put yourself through that), my treat.

Texas is nice during...during, uh...

Oh, hell. Texas sucks.

August 31, 2011  08:45 AM ET

Millers and sausages for all !!! Daly is gonna buy !!

August 31, 2011  11:07 AM ET
QUOTE(#34):

Millers and sausages for all !!! Daly is gonna buy !!

That actually sounds like a darn fine day!!!

September 1, 2011  11:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#31):

You're on, Jonis. Cab and cigars after I farm one of your fine courses. Nice.I'll extend the same offer. If you're ever in Texas (although I'll never understand why you'd want to put yourself through that), my treat.Texas is nice during...during, uh...Oh, hell. Texas sucks.

I enjoyed the times I was in Texas. I think that some of the people have gone to the dark side politically (I call it brain damage) you know, people that talk the talk but don't walk the talk.

Then there's Fehrety. He pretty much ruined the state. He may have the paperwork but the lime-sucker still isn't an American. And, I don't care how many flags or guns he wants to wave, he isn't anymore patriotic than an armadillo. He is as messed up and brainwashed as they get. Golf's version of Tom Delay. I hope his 15 minutes will be up soon.

September 1, 2011  05:11 PM ET
QUOTE(#27):

I think they're called some kind of (should I say cheap) uniflex. But, they worked for me.The fitting thing is an issue with me also. I had my Mizunos fitted years ago and they were one degree flat. I definitely need that. However, the homey at Carl's told me that how a person sets the club at address doesn't necessarily dictate the lie because even if the toe sticks up at address it may not be the same at impact. I think they have you hit on tape or paper to see what the finish looks like. Since I'm the SOB that will be handing out the $700 worth of scheckles, if I want it flat--that's the way Callaway will make them for me. I'm going to give my old complete set to my 28 year old daughter: bag, putter, irons and my old iron woods. Then I'm going to get a new ultra-light bag, Oddessy putter, and the sweet Razors. I can't wait until next spring. If you're ever up in Michigan next summer look me up: we'll play a gorgeous course (my treat), I'll bring you home, give you a glass of Cabernet and a first class cigar.

Wow...you're going to spend $700 on game improvement clubs that may or may not fit your swing because you like the way they look at address. Now there's a novel idea. And, of course, you know better than the person that does fittings....who, by the way, is absolutely correct!

Congratulations, idiocy still thrives.

 
September 1, 2011  05:13 PM ET

Off on a golf trip to the Dairy state next week with childhood buddies. Drinking, playing golf, swapping lies. Does it get any better than that! I'll check back in a couple of weeks on the off chance there's a new post to the FN Golf forum.

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