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09:38 AM ET 12.16 | Two crisis-management experts question the league's handling of the Spygate situation, saying the destruction of the tapes raised questions about what they contained. The tapes arrived sometime between Sept. 16, when Commissioner Roger Goodell said he had yet to receive them, and Sept. 20, when the NFL announced all material from the investigation had been destroyed "to ensure a level playing field." The league has not addressed the tapes since. Questions remain: How many tapes showed evidence of cheating? In what games? In the playoffs? In the Super Bowl? By other teams?

New York Times

Bill Belichick, AP Bill Belichick, AP
December 16, 2007  09:48 AM ET

of course it showed cheating in the playoffs. its much easier on the league image if they just have to fine belicheat and the patriots for that one game, than to figure out what to do with the tainted playoff and superbowl wins.

December 16, 2007  10:03 AM ET

To think the Pats have been the ONLY team to ever do this is silly. It happens in all sports, take a look a baseball for example. The calls are easy to see and everyone tries to get them, period.

Put this silly story to rest. Jets have already stated that they taped stuff too; they say they didn't tape the calls... No they did, they won't admit it though, but why would they? Don't even try to tell me they used their morals then!

December 16, 2007  10:09 AM ET

of course it showed cheating in the playoffs. its much easier on the league image if they just have to fine belicheat and the patriots for that one game, than to figure out what to do with the tainted playoff and superbowl wins.

Trailer Park Trash | 12/16/07

Let me guess, Cowboys or Colts fan?

December 16, 2007  10:11 AM ET

By destroying the evidence the NFL managed to keep them from becoming public. Possibly saving the season from falling into Chaos and becoming controversial. Most likely, some tape would show other team doing the same thing.
What about the Jets 'asking permission' to film from areas other than their designated ones. Who knows what they caught on the cam. However we just have to take the team's admission that they were not filming the signals. This whole thing is a big joke, and should just go away, except for the NFL to keep control and monitor every team for sign of cheating.

December 16, 2007  10:11 AM ET

Its the smartest thing they could do - destroy them. If the tapes existed still, the press would want them released and you would hear about it every day until the NFL did so. Then they would then disect them one by one in the context of 'this blowout' or this 'close win'. Someone would come up with a number of games that were decided by using this information, another would make a split of the PAts record when they did have a tape on the opponent and when they did not. Regardless of reality, with a small sample size one could make a case easily that the tapes helped them win ..or not win but guess which version would get press?

Either way if you think their is speculation now, there would be 10 times more if the tapes still existed, which would, in the end, be not good for the NFL.

December 16, 2007  10:22 AM ET

STOP! Nobody cares! IT's December! EVery game we see from now on just about, will have playoff implications! This si the best part! I dont want to hear any more **** about the **** cameras!

December 16, 2007  10:23 AM ET

KP,
Why cowboy fan? I see it as intel gathering. It is over, time to move on, next subject. I don't think cowboy fans have much animosity for NE or AFC East teams in general. As a team that everyone loves to hate after 30 years we are used to the heat

I think I may change my name to +40yr Cowboy Fan 18-1 and smiling

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December 16, 2007  10:30 AM ET

Wait, these tapes were destroyed along with the CIA Tapes... I smell a scandal in the making. Was the Government involved in destroying the Belichicken's Sex er sorry - Cheat tapes?

Was Bellichicken involved in destroying the CIA tapes? Did Bellichick use Water Boarding to torture players from the opposing side???? Does he have WND's or is he building a nuke?

I suggest that the JETS flyin today and bomb him pre-emptive strike! Do it now before he has the BOMB... oh darn.. he already does... Brady-Moss. Well perhaps the UN will freeze their accounts.. oh wait - everything in Boston is now frozen... ahhhh politics!

Read it here first - JETS Take Down the NE Patricia's in a stunning upset. Belichicken punches Mangenius in the traditional end of game hand shake... J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS (sec: 335 rules)

December 16, 2007  10:33 AM ET

KP,
Why cowboy fan? I see it as intel gathering. It is over, time to move on, next subject. I don't think cowboy fans have much animosity for NE or AFC East teams in general. As a team that everyone loves to hate after 30 years we are used to the heat

I think I may change my name to +40yr Cowboy Fan 18-1 and smiling

+40yrCowboyFan | 12/16/07

No offense to most cowboy or colts fans especially you and JC and Mike etc its just typically when someone makes a "rant" like that, its a colts or cowboys bandwagoner fan.. just like when someone makes a stupid comment about the colts or the cowboys, its usually a Pats bandwagoner..
I meant to offense to you personally.

December 16, 2007  10:33 AM ET

MikeE,
Do we care so much? Not enough to leave the site. It is no worse than the c-rap on the front pages or news pages. I come here to escape the usual news and I DO get to voice my own weak minded opinions and spout off a little and exchange friendly spears with like minded sport fans. It is not that bad. COuld we collectively support some deepminded Xs and Os? most likely not. THis is still ok by me.
Cheers

December 16, 2007  10:34 AM ET

That should read I meant No offense to you personally.

December 16, 2007  10:35 AM ET

Mike its not FN thats hyping it, its all the media.. NYTimes, ESPN, etc..
ratings my friend, its all about the ratings.....

December 16, 2007  10:36 AM ET

Read it here first - JETS Take Down the NE Patricia's in a stunning upset. Belichicken punches Mangenius in the traditional end of game hand shake... J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS (sec: 335 rules)

Stephen (JETS!) | 12/16/07

Good luck with that.
I hope you all flew in yesterday because they're aint NUTHIN landing today in Boston...
Jets will have to spend an extra night in Boston.. this storm is vicious..

December 16, 2007  10:38 AM ET

KP,
No worries, like you I don't care for the bandwagoners (sp). I am careful in what I say 'cause when they (insert your team here) lose it really bums me out and I don't need some fairweather fan to pile on when they are not so deeply invested.
I enjoy some bantering and can sense who is not being mean spirited, usuall less curse words. Any one know what happened to BelliBow2? Must have got booted.
GOt to go make pancakes for the familia--sunday tradition like football

December 16, 2007  10:39 AM ET

Is it 1 pm yet?

December 16, 2007  10:45 AM ET

I have heard just about enough of Spygate. Get over it already!

December 16, 2007  10:49 AM ET

Any one know what happened to BelliBow2? Must have got booted.
GOt to go make pancakes for the familia--sunday tradition like football

+40yrCowboyFan | 12/16/07

Been removed a dozen times, keeps coming back..

 
December 16, 2007  10:57 AM ET

Can we not move past this story. Yawn.

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