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08:21 AM ET 08.31 | You can probably hear the gnashing of teeth among the NHL's GMs. If you're wondering what two middling seasons in the NHL is worth, check out James van Riemsdyk's new six-year extension in Philadelphia. The 22-year-old Flyers' winger had 35 points his first full season and 40 last year. He just got $4.25 million a year, for six seasons from Flyers' owner Ed Snider, who has money to burn because he also owns the cable giant Comcast. This is a giant leap of faith for a kid who has size (6'3", 200 pounds) and skill but has blown by the intermediate stage in salary. ... All we know is, GM's on other teams with similiar young players must be privately cursing the Flyers because agents will certainly use the JVR deal as their comparable.

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August 31, 2011  08:41 AM ET

this is no different than the offer sheet the Oil gave to Dustin Penner a few years ago

August 31, 2011  08:42 AM ET

and based on the Carter and Richards contracts, JVR should be traded in approx. 1.5 seasons

August 31, 2011  09:05 AM ET

Once again, the contract numbers don't match a players value...Flyer fans need to hang their hat on this guy and justify it since they got rid of two other key pieces.

August 31, 2011  09:25 AM ET

he was a little slow to develop, but if the playoff performance he put on is indication of potential, then we can see the upside. If he keeps up that level of play with the increased ice time he is going to get this season, he could end up putting up 30 and 30. the kid is 22. if he continues to prgress he could be a ppg player in a couple years.

put him on a line with giroux and jagr and he's getting 50 points minimum.

August 31, 2011  09:27 AM ET

Brad Marchand just became a very happy guy after this.

August 31, 2011  09:29 AM ET

Anyway, is this much different than a lot of guys who are UFA's getting way too much? Wisniewski comes to mind. Guy was pretty much worthless and got a 6 year 33 million contract. Kaberle who was a disaster in Boston except for a couple of games still got over 4 million a year.

August 31, 2011  09:32 AM ET

I agree the kid has an upside and the contract is a wee bit pricey. The cap could get 'em squeezed a tad if the generosity is repeated too often. But, it's too early to make a judgment yet.

August 31, 2011  09:32 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Anyway, is this much different than a lot of guys who are UFA's getting way too much? Wisniewski comes to mind. Guy was pretty much worthless and got a 6 year 33 million contract. Kaberle who was a disaster in Boston except for a couple of games still got over 4 million a year.

I used to wonder who is crazier in these situations, the agents for asking for that $ or the GMs for paying it.
The answer has become quite clear indeed

August 31, 2011  09:35 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Brad Marchand just became a very happy guy after this.

This was the first thing I thought of after hearing news of this.

August 31, 2011  10:12 AM ET

That's an amazing financial reward for only 11 playoff games of scoring production.

August 31, 2011  10:14 AM ET

Anybody know what airport JVR is code for?

August 31, 2011  10:19 AM ET

Blaming the Flyers is weak. Be a man pay for what you think its worth and if not then let the next team dig a hole for themselves. They can use his deal as a comparison but GMs should be able to use lower production results as their comparison.

August 31, 2011  10:21 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Anybody know what airport JVR is code for?

Did a reverse-search - There is no "JVR" code. But, "YVR" is Vancouver...

August 31, 2011  10:25 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

this is no different than the offer sheet the Oil gave to Dustin Penner a few years ago

And how did that work out...

August 31, 2011  10:25 AM ET

The Flyers are shown a great deal of faith in this kid - Here's to hoping that they'll be rewarded.

He's very mature; level-headed. Methinks they may be grooming him as "Captain" material.

August 31, 2011  10:31 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

I agree the kid has an upside and the contract is a wee bit pricey. The cap could get 'em squeezed a tad if the generosity is repeated too often. But, it's too early to make a judgment yet.

They were already squeezed before this contract. I would say Holmgren was very hasty with the offer. The only thing quicker was how fast JVR signed it.

August 31, 2011  10:34 AM ET

JVR has been getting better each year and I think he can live up to this contract. This year will really tell now that Richards and Carter are gone. The responsibility for scoring is going to fall partially on the young guys like JVR and Giroux. We will find out real quick if they can handle it. I for one am glad to see him get a chance.

And, not to nit-pick Edmonton Journal, but Ed Snider does not own Comcast. The Roberts family has owned it since the start. For Pete's sake (whoever Pete is), it doesn't take much research to find that out.

August 31, 2011  10:36 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Anybody know what airport JVR is code for?

JVR has a frequent Flyer program. But poor puns aside, I know YVR is Vancouver.

August 31, 2011  10:50 AM ET

Ed Snider doesn't own "Cable giant Comcast". Mr Snider is chairman of Comcast Spectacor. Get your facts right.

 
August 31, 2011  10:50 AM ET
QUOTE(#17):

JVR has been getting better each year and I think he can live up to this contract. This year will really tell now that Richards and Carter are gone. The responsibility for scoring is going to fall partially on the young guys like JVR and Giroux. We will find out real quick if they can handle it. I for one am glad to see him get a chance.And, not to nit-pick Edmonton Journal, but Ed Snider does not own Comcast. The Roberts family has owned it since the start. For Pete's sake (whoever Pete is), it doesn't take much research to find that out.

Pete's a short form of "Peter".

I'll just leave it there shall I?

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