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08:22 AM ET 10.07 | During his playing days, Brendan Shanahan would have been an ideal Don Cherry player, but things are different in a new NHL. [Cherry] came out swinging in his first Coach's Corner segment on Saturday night. His target was Brendan Shanahan, the National Hockey League's vice-president of safety and the slew of suspensions handed out during the pre-season. ... "I'll tell you one thing," Cherry, who hasn't watched Shanahan's explanations for suspending/not suspending players, said. "I'd hate to be paying $175 to watch that stuff. Absolutely ridiculous what they've done. The players will not hit. Guaranteed. When you give an excuse to the players not to hit, they will not hit."

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October 7, 2011  08:24 AM ET

Fight Much, Bro?

October 7, 2011  08:38 AM ET

"[Cherry] came out swinging in his first Coach's Corner segment on Saturday night."

Cherry made his comments last night, idiot, not tomorrow night.

October 7, 2011  08:39 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

"[Cherry] came out swinging in his first Coach's Corner segment on Saturday night."Cherry made his comments last night, idiot, not tomorrow night.

Are we still in Kansas?

October 7, 2011  08:48 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Are we still in Kansas?

That might explain it.

October 7, 2011  08:55 AM ET

Awww poor Grapes, thinking he's relevant.... Senility sucks.

October 7, 2011  09:37 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Awww poor Grapes, thinking he's relevant.... Senility sucks.

A least you got McGuire back......enjoy.

October 7, 2011  09:39 AM ET

I agree with Cherry on a lot of issues (no touch icing for instance). But the NHL has changed a lot in the last 20 years. Pads are no longer pads they're armor, players are a lot faster and bigger, the boards no longer have any give to them, and players seem to not really care about running a guy from behind head first into the boards (probably due to the fact that the instigator rule is still here). These suspensions (for the most part) were warranted and Shanny gave explanations for each one (unlike Colin Campbell). I just hope that the superstars are held just as accountable and that the time of year (playoffs) doesn't factor into the length or severity of these fines and suspensions.

October 7, 2011  09:48 AM ET

It didn't stop Chara from pasting Giroux face first into the boards yesterday.

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October 7, 2011  09:59 AM ET

Shanahan seems to me to be doing a conscientious job. I want to give him a few months to see if he can be consistent and the players can make sensible adjustments, Anything that means a reduction in concussions that ruin a player's life, not to mention his career, is worthwhile. And, I'll guarantee you that Grapes hasn't paid $175 to watch any games. I doubt he'd pay 17 cents.

October 7, 2011  10:10 AM ET

I loved what Shanny was starting, but he's starting to fold under the pressure. No suspension for Malone for a blatant headshot. that tells me he's starting to fold under the expectations of certain folks and the media.

This is the inconsistency that is gonna scare players into a non-physical game. All the head shots came with suspensions. What was the difference this time? Apparently it was the hittee's fault for leaning forward for the puck. OK. So what about all the crap that was spewed about the onus being on the player delivering the check?

Grapes is right. The players will scale back their physical play unless they get this figured out and standardize it. That or it will just go back to the way it used to be.

October 7, 2011  10:23 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

It didn't stop Chara from pasting Giroux face first into the boards yesterday.

That could have been a lot worse if he followed through. 5 or 10 would have been too much, but that should have been 2 for roughing or boarding, take your pick.

October 7, 2011  10:45 AM ET

Have to agree with him...He talked about how one player was suspended for ten games yet the guy he hit only missed a couple of shifts. He was questioning what was going to happen when someone actually gets hurt or a star player gets hurt (will the suspension be 40 games?). He believes Brendan may have went a little too far with some of his early suspensions.

October 7, 2011  11:04 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Awww poor Grapes, thinking he's relevant.... Senility sucks.

Usually I find Grapes very entertaining but, he's pissed all over himself on this one. I guess he forgot to wear his diaper.

October 7, 2011  11:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Awww poor Seth78, thinking he's relevant.... Stupidity sucks.

Don knows. Don has always known.

Don speaks for "everyman" when he speaks of being sorry for paying customers, not himself.

Don has harped on weaponry masquerading as body armour for ages.

And you bet your sweet bippy Shanahan went too far early.

October 7, 2011  11:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Usually I find Grapes very entertaining but, he's pissed all over himself on this one. I guess he forgot to wear his diaper.

Give me a break. He was 100% correct.

October 7, 2011  11:48 AM ET

Everyone needs to chill out. Players will adapt, they know there's a new sherriff in town who is serious about taking the head shots out of the game. If Cherry watched the league videos he oughta know that Shanahan has no intention of taking hitting out of the game. There was bound to be a period of adjustment so for Cherry to go ballistic over the preseason is just an ego thing for him. Come back in December and we'll see where things stand.

October 7, 2011  11:51 AM ET
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Don knows. Don has always known. Don speaks for "everyman" when he speaks of being sorry for paying customers, not himself. Don has harped on weaponry masquerading as body armour for ages.And you bet your sweet bippy Shanahan went too far early.

Nobody speaks for "everyman" and not all paying customers are the same.

I agree that the pads are the problem, as well as the instigator penalty and 3rd man in, etc, but until those issues are addressed, something needs to be done to keep the headshots out of the game. It's a no win situation for hockey if good players are unable to suit up and all we are left with are the goons.

October 7, 2011  11:52 AM ET
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Sorry, but Grapes was dead on last night. And those losers on FAN this morning and in basically every paper have lost the plot. If making the NHL "safer" results in periods like the 1st I saw last night in Toronto (cue the bashing), I have zero faith in the future of the game. The unwillingness of players to make a hit, knowing what that might mean for their eligibility, was directly affecting the way they moved and passed. And Cherry was dead on in stating that Shanahan needs to clarify specific reasoning behind the asininely long suspensions he's been handing out. This is an old problem most thought would be solved once Shanahan replaced the Colon, but it's as if it got worse.

Danny, are you saying you'd rather see a bunch of cheapshotting thugs skating around ending peoples careers? It also sounds like you don't think that Matt Cooke has deserved the punishment he's gotten.

Shanny is enforcing the rules as they are written. The Malone hit was straight on and he also contacted the body. The rule is a blindside hit where the main contact is the head. Not only that I think Shanahan has been doing a good job explaining why he assigned the penalties that he did. As much as I thought Chara deserved a bigger penalty I can see where the thought of missing a few games held him back from really pasting Giroux into the boards. Personally I like this kind of hockey now where they are actually playing the game rather than trying to see who they can out thug.

 
October 7, 2011  11:56 AM ET
QUOTE(#19):

Nobody speaks for "everyman" and not all paying customers are the same.I agree that the pads are the problem, as well as the instigator penalty and 3rd man in, etc, but until those issues are addressed, something needs to be done to keep the headshots out of the game. It's a no win situation for hockey if good players are unable to suit up and all we are left with are the goons.

So why don't they address those issues as well? Not a peep from the NHL about equipment so far.

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