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08:13 AM ET 10.12 | One of the first rules in negotiating is not to start with your final offer. Money, five years, and a good team. That's what Jimmy Rollins is looking for as a free agent. ... "If I was older I'd take a shorter term. I'll be 33 by the time I get the contract. I've probably got a good six years left of being able to perform at a high level, possibly even more. I know how to keep myself in shape. I'm secure in who I am and what I can do. I'm looking to get five years. If it's going to be shorter, there'd have to be a fifth year option -- my option. If it doesn't work out here, we'll see what's out there on the open market. If (the Phillies) made an offer right now and it was great for both sides, it'd be a no-brainer."

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October 12, 2011  08:24 AM ET

He'll get 3 years and an option from Philly. If some team is willing to go 5 for a 32 year old shortstop, then god bless them. 5 year contracts to non superstars are a dying breed in the MLB.

October 12, 2011  08:31 AM ET

He probably saw the ridiculous contract the Phillies gave Ryan Howard and figured he can dupe them too.

October 12, 2011  08:42 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

He probably saw the ridiculous contract the Phillies gave Ryan Howard and figured he can dupe them too.

This could be true.

What is wrong with Ryan Howard's contract? Are you saying that a .250 hitter with questionable defense, who is pretty much neutralized after the 6th inning of most games is not worth $125 million?

October 12, 2011  08:45 AM ET

No way I'd give this guy a long contract. Too bad the Mets already have the Reyes, otherwise they could overspend on this guy.

October 12, 2011  09:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

No way I'd give this guy a long contract. Too bad the Mets already have the Reyes, otherwise they could overspend on this guy.

Mets don't have Reyes....and don't want Rollins....Reuben Tejada Mets shortstop next year....Mets will take the 2 picks they get for Reyes...."Moneyball East"........

October 12, 2011  09:08 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

He probably saw the ridiculous contract the Phillies gave Ryan Howard and figured he can dupe them too.

Phillies have made their bed..now they have to sleep in it....If they don't sign / extend him what do they do????Reyes....no way....any young shortstops down on the farm ????

October 12, 2011  09:37 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Reuben Tejada Mets shortstop next year....Mets will take the 2 picks they get for Reyes...."Moneyball East"........

That would be best case scenario for them at this juncture.

October 12, 2011  09:39 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

He'll get 3 years and an option from Philly. If some team is willing to go 5 for a 32 year old shortstop, then god bless them.

Exactly ^^^^

October 12, 2011  09:56 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

What is wrong with Ryan Howard's contract? Are you saying that a .250 hitter with questionable defense, who is pretty much neutralized after the 6th inning of most games is not worth $125 million?

I like your style.

October 12, 2011  10:13 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

This could be true.What is wrong with Ryan Howard's contract? Are you saying that a .250 hitter with questionable defense, who is pretty much neutralized after the 6th inning of most games is not worth $125 million?

Howard got the going rate...if Phillies didnt pay him someone else would have and guess what with out Howard the Phillies would not have been where they have been...

I cant argue that he should be producing more with the money he got...no doubt about it...but people seem to act like he hasn't done anything for the organization.

And the bottom line is the Phillies knew what they were getting when they signed him. To his credit he has improved defensively...check the stats...bottom line is he got the going rate that somebody else would have given him...

October 12, 2011  10:18 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

This could be true.What is wrong with Ryan Howard's contract? Are you saying that a .250 hitter with questionable defense, who is pretty much neutralized after the 6th inning of most games is not worth $125 million?

Now that he has an achilles problem I doubt he's worth more than $124 million?

October 12, 2011  10:22 AM ET

These 5,6,7 year deals don't work, period. Just ask the Giants (Zito), Red Sox (Crawford), Yankees (Rodriguez) how they feel now that they've inked these contracts. I'm sure there's more out there, but when the agent comes flying with these kinds of offers, GM's ought to run for cover, or allow the fanbase to burn them at the stake when they make a bonehead move that basically cripples a franchise.

October 12, 2011  11:01 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Howard got the going rate...if Phillies didnt pay him someone else would have and guess what with out Howard the Phillies would not have been where they have been...I cant argue that he should be producing more with the money he got...no doubt about it...but people seem to act like he hasn't done anything for the organization.And the bottom line is the Phillies knew what they were getting when they signed him. To his credit he has improved defensively...check the stats...bottom line is he got the going rate that somebody else would have given him...

My point from the first time I heard about the contract was this, who cares if he left?

There were so many other 1st base options on the market, why give an average hitter with power superstar money?

October 12, 2011  11:11 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Howard got the going rate...if Phillies didnt pay him someone else would have and guess what with out Howard the Phillies would not have been where they have been...I cant argue that he should be producing more with the money he got...no doubt about it...but people seem to act like he hasn't done anything for the organization.And the bottom line is the Phillies knew what they were getting when they signed him. To his credit he has improved defensively...check the stats...bottom line is he got the going rate that somebody else would have given him...

I don't think there were many teams out there who would have paid Howard what the Phillies did. The consensus opinion at the time was that they had overpaid.

October 12, 2011  11:17 AM ET

C Ya....JR...you should get down on your knees and kill the ground if they offered you a 2 year contract

October 12, 2011  01:06 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Howard got the going rate...if Phillies didnt pay him someone else would have

He got well over the going rate. No other team would have given him that. Particularly considering he would be a free agent right now.

A five year/$125m contract for a 32-year-old, poor-fielding, slightly-above-average hitting first-baseman with a torn achilles tendon. Not gonna happen.

October 12, 2011  01:08 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

My point from the first time I heard about the contract was this, who cares if he left?There were so many other 1st base options on the market, why give an average hitter with power superstar money?

HOLY ****.

Are you sure you're a Phillies fan?

October 12, 2011  01:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

I don't think there were many teams out there who would have paid Howard what the Phillies did.

There's not one. He wouldn't have been a free agent until now. Back-to-back sub-par seasons, 32-years-old with a torn achilles. He'd have been lucky to draw $20m per.

October 12, 2011  01:13 PM ET

I find it particularly interesting that in a matter of a few years, they completely reinvented themselves from a no pitching/heavy hitting team into a pitching heavy/average hitting team.

The Phillies have made some great moves, and it shows in their success, but the Howard contract is NOT one of them.

 
October 12, 2011  01:51 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

He'll get 3 years and an option from Philly. If some team is willing to go 5 for a 32 year old shortstop, then god bless them. 5 year contracts to non superstars are a dying breed in the MLB.

God bless them? More like Heaven help them

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