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Epstein to hire, rather than become Cubs GM?

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08:13 AM ET 10.19 | Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein is about to become former GM of the Red Sox. [Epstein] will be headed to the Cubs any day now, but not necessarily as general manager. Epstein is actively looking to hire a GM, a move that would enable him to serve the Cubs as president of baseball operations, according to major league sources. The change in job description would qualify as a promotion for Epstein. It also would allow him to be less involved in the day-to-day grind that wears down many GMs. ... Epstein, meanwhile, is exploring other GM candidates while awaiting completion of the compensation deal between the Cubs and Red Sox, sources say.

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October 19, 2011  08:20 AM ET

Theo's not with the Cubs yet. Pay the Red Sox, Cubbies.

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October 19, 2011  08:43 AM ET

Apparently, one of the negotiating issues with the Red Sox is over what staffers he can take with him to Chicago; maybe he has a GM picked out already?

October 19, 2011  08:51 AM ET

The daily Theo thread. At this point does it really matter? Until he goes to the Cubs it's all conjecture. Usually the commisioner puts some kind of time limit on these things so they don't drag out like this.

October 19, 2011  09:34 AM ET

The Cubs are so over valuing this guy it's incredible. Other than getting rid of Nomar at the right time what has this guy actually done? This team is going to collapse under the weight of his signings. The Cubs are foolish to pay anything to get him. He can't go back to the Red Sox at this point anyway.

October 19, 2011  09:39 AM ET
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Other than getting rid of Nomar at the right time what has this guy actually done?

I believe he can put two time champion on his resume.

October 19, 2011  09:45 AM ET
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I believe he can put two time champion on his resume.

True that, and he did bring Damon and Ortiz to town so he gets credit for that too, but, I'm suggesting that falls into the "Blind Squirrel" category. Since then just about all of his moves have been disasters that will be difficult for the team to overcome.

October 19, 2011  10:46 AM ET
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True that, and he did bring Damon and Ortiz to town so he gets credit for that too, but, I'm suggesting that falls into the "Blind Squirrel" category. Since then just about all of his moves have been disasters that will be difficult for the team to overcome.

He has made less good moves than bad moves. Mike Cameron, Julio Lugo, Edgar Rentanerror, John Lackey, JD Drew, John Smolz, Brad Penny, Eric Gagne, Jeff Suppan, Dice-K... etc. Much of the core players from 2004 had been inherited from Dan Duquette.

October 19, 2011  12:11 PM ET

What confuses me is, most contracts have a "no compensation necessary" clause when the contracted is being hired for a higher position. If Theo is being hired to be President, as opposed to GM, the Cubs shouldn't owe the Sox anything...

Come to think of it...if the Cubs were smart, they would do that regardless....

October 19, 2011  01:23 PM ET
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He has made less good moves than bad moves. Mike Cameron, Julio Lugo, Edgar Rentanerror, John Lackey, JD Drew, John Smolz, Brad Penny, Eric Gagne, Jeff Suppan, Dice-K... etc. Much of the core players from 2004 had been inherited from Dan Duquette.

he made his share of bad free agent signings but that doesn't really matter when you are the red sox and have a payroll of 150 million plus. What does matter is trades and player development and small signings.
Theo brought Ortiz, Bill Mueller, and Millar to Boston and those 3 especially Ortiz were huge in 04. Also for O4 he did the Nomar trade which brought in Orlando Cabrera who was huge that year. He also aqquired Roberts in 04 and without him and the steal there is no world series.

He also drafted Ellsbury, Clay, Pedoria, and Paps all who have been very sucessful All Star PLayers. He also signed Clay, Pedoria, Lester, and youk to very friendly deals and won two championships and made the playoffs almost every year. Enough with the theo bashing

October 19, 2011  01:24 PM ET

also the trade for Curt was huge

October 19, 2011  01:59 PM ET
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What confuses me is, most contracts have a "no compensation necessary" clause when the contracted is being hired for a higher position. If Theo is being hired to be President, as opposed to GM, the Cubs shouldn't owe the Sox anything...Come to think of it...if the Cubs were smart, they would do that regardless....

So why don't you call up Tom Ricketts to tell him he's being stupid? How impressive that you have solved this whole fiasco!

 
October 19, 2011  06:12 PM ET
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So why don't you call up Tom Ricketts to tell him he's being stupid? How impressive that you have solved this whole fiasco!

Daddy, you should call up Tom Ricketts and tell him you want the job, you've had more experience with wieners than anybody!!!

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