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09:13 AM ET 10.22 | The NBA owners sitting across the table are just as, if not more, divided than the players. The small-market owners and large-market owners don't see eye to eye and have very different goals and ideas when it comes to the next collective bargaining agreement. "The likes of Jerry Buss, Jim Dolan, Mickey Arison and Mark Cuban, I think those are folks who want a deal," Billy Hunter told reporters on Thursday. For every large-market owner, there are several small-market owners who aren't willing to budge. "Paul Allen, Peter Holt, Wyc Grousbeck, Robert Sarver and Dan Gilbert are all hard-liners," said one NBPA source. "They are stopping the progress."

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October 22, 2011  09:49 AM ET

Question: Both the owners and the players knew 2 years ago that we we're moving to this point. Why did they wait until the last minute to attempt to hammer out a deal? If they had started negotiations last year, maybe the current drama could have been avoided. I don't think there will be a season this year, and it didn't have to be this way.

October 22, 2011  10:03 AM ET

small market NBA owners want a NFL like agreement / Hard CAP ... where small market Green Bay is able to WIN a Super Bowl ... and when LeBron / Bosh / Wade, all decided to play in Miami at a Salary discount ... small market owners when ...What are we Farm teams ...

October 22, 2011  10:05 AM ET

good keep hard lining and get a hard salary cap. would make basketball bearable again for anyone not living in Miami, New York, L.A, etc

October 22, 2011  10:36 AM ET

Last time I checked out Phoenix Arizona was the 14th largest city with 1.5 million people living there. How is that a small media market? I know the owner is a cheap penny pincher. But Phoenix is not a small town.

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October 22, 2011  10:53 AM ET
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Last time I checked out Phoenix Arizona was the 14th largest city with 1.5 million people living there. How is that a small media market? I know the owner is a cheap penny pincher. But Phoenix is not a small town.

And Grousbeck with the Celtics...

Small market?

October 22, 2011  10:54 AM ET

Size Does Matter, Bros.

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October 22, 2011  11:21 AM ET

Not much investigative journalism here, simply quoting one side then inventing a headline and rushing to print. Bush league!

October 22, 2011  11:41 AM ET
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Go Rangers! We'll see Dirk again tonight. The guy is good luck to the Rangers. I hope the Rangers' bats come alive again tonight and Harrison follows Colby Lewis' lead.

I'd say we fans spoke loud and clear on this one...

That was a stupid call on MLB's part.

Our bats need to go off on Lohse.

And ditto on Harrison giving us a Colby performance!

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October 22, 2011  12:10 PM ET
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... If we think Stern is bad than Selig is a lot worse. Selig don't believe in change even if it will make his sport better.

Selig is a neutered mouthpiece for MLB owners. that is far worse than Stern.

October 22, 2011  01:18 PM ET
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Question: Both the owners and the players knew 2 years ago that we we're moving to this point. Why did they wait until the last minute to attempt to hammer out a deal? If they had started negotiations last year, maybe the current drama could have been avoided. I don't think there will be a season this year, and it didn't have to be this way.

That's a question we all have asked. Waiting til the last minute to negotiate may not have made the difference since the sides are light years apart, but it damn sure didn't help.

October 22, 2011  01:23 PM ET
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The 4 owners mentioned are the big markets and are the ones that are way over the cap. Billy Hunter mentioned these guys because these owners are willing to spend anything to get there team better. Even if these owners made a big mistake of overpaying a player, it's so easy for them to cover it up w/ their money. They can sign a Dampier or a Walton, etc to a big contract but they don't care if go over the cap. This is really unfair to the smaller market teams that's why there should be a hard cap. Even then we don't really know if these big market owners are really against a hard cap. Billy Hunter is just making assumptions...

Yea, I got a good chuckle out of which 4 owners wanted a deal asap. Of course they want it like it is, these are four of the 5-6 markets that abuse the current salary cap. The last thing they want is to be on a level playing field in terms of spending. It'd be like the steinbrenners opposing a hard cap in MLB, it's no secret why they want he current system to stay the same.

October 22, 2011  01:26 PM ET
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Selig is a neutered mouthpiece for MLB owners. that is far worse than Stern.

Selig is so far and away worse then stern, it isn't a comparison. Stern is just the mediator between the owners and players, and while be may side for the owners, he doesn't have any power to end this lockout. The lockout won't end until the players accept the changes, it's as simple as that.

October 22, 2011  02:18 PM ET
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good keep hard lining and get a hard salary cap. would make basketball bearable again for anyone not living in Miami, New York, L.A, etc

Not really. It just means that if you draft well, you'll lose your players even more quickly after their rookie contract is up, because you can't afford to pay them more, and they can make more endorsement money in a bigger market.

Remember, Lebron James re-signed with Cleveland after his rookie deal was up. With a hard salary cap, that'll never happen again.

Be careful what you wish for.

 
October 22, 2011  02:25 PM ET

The NFL and NBA are very different. For example, in the NFL the safety does not have to coordinate with the QB. The guards don't have to pass the ball to the linebackers. The specialization of the NFL means that players on a team are not competing against each other for more money in a way that will harm the game. In the NBA, imagine the Oklahoma Thunder when Westbrook and Durant are competing against each other for salary. Imagine, in fact, any team with two key scorers (i.e., any team worth watching in the last 2 decades). The chemistry issues are going to explode under a hard salary cap, and what we will see is more one-on-one (or one-on-five) basketball.

The NHL and MLB are also very specialized sports. The right fielder's hitting does not affect one of the starting pitcher's performance. The goalie in hockey does not compete with the forward. This is not the way basketball works, and this will make a hard salary cap a stupid intervention. If you like team basketball you have to be against a hard salary cap.

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