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Phillies' closer up in the air ... again

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08:11 AM ET 10.24 | After his 2011, Ryan Madson is likely to cash in, though it may be a matter of where. The Phillies would like him back in 2012, but the love is conditional. Ruben Amaro Jr. has said few definitive things since the season ended, but one was his desire for a "proven closer" -- Madson or not. "I don't feel comfortable with the guys we have internally," Amaro said. "If Ryan does not sign, we might have to go outside the organization. There are some people in our system who think [Justin] De Fratus or [Phillippe] Aumont can do that. I am not convinced of that yet." The irony, of course, is that Madson did not fit the bill of "proven closer" before 2011.

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October 24, 2011  10:38 AM ET

Good thing they won't need a closer for a while.

October 24, 2011  01:56 PM ET

They Still got Lidge on a Club Option :-)

October 24, 2011  02:02 PM ET

lidge too old plus he has become injuried-prone player,,

October 24, 2011  02:03 PM ET

madson should and would be the right closer for the phillies at lest for now!!

October 24, 2011  02:04 PM ET

unless they would like to trade for soriano from the yankees!!

October 24, 2011  02:05 PM ET

perhaps the problem itsn't the relievers but it could be the pitching coach in their bullpen!!

October 24, 2011  07:24 PM ET

the phillies could have a shot on francisco rodriguez, because its doubtfull that the brewers would sign him!!

October 24, 2011  07:26 PM ET

phillies could keep searching for a closer, brian fuentes, or the A's current closer bailey!!

October 24, 2011  07:27 PM ET

perhaps the twins closer nathan, the twins don't want to retain their closer any more!!

October 24, 2011  07:29 PM ET

the braves have great arms in their bullpen!!

October 24, 2011  07:30 PM ET

rangers are loaded with good pitching prospects!!

October 24, 2011  07:31 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

They Still got Lidge on a Club Option :-)

lidge can't guarantee his durability as a closer, the injuries are more stronger than his own will!!

October 25, 2011  12:59 AM ET

The Phillies declined on Lidge, Oswalt and won't resign Ibanez. That saves around $37 million, minus the buyout amount of $2 million. $8 million to sign Rollins, $6 million to sign Madson and an additional $4 million for extending Hamels. That leaves $17 million for Kubel and three relievers in the bullpen.

Now, if we can just get rid of Baby Huey (Joe Blanton) and Polanco!! These two guys are way.... overpaid. Put Martinez at 3B and find a great set up man.

 
October 26, 2011  06:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

The Phillies declined on Lidge, Oswalt and won't resign Ibanez. That saves around $37 million, minus the buyout amount of $2 million. $8 million to sign Rollins, $6 million to sign Madson and an additional $4 million for extending Hamels. That leaves $17 million for Kubel and three relievers in the bullpen.Now, if we can just get rid of Baby Huey (Joe Blanton) and Polanco!! These two guys are way.... overpaid. Put Martinez at 3B and find a great set up man.

Phillies currently have 9 players under contract for 2012 in the amount of $112 million which is $53 million less than 2011 but 16 players short of a full roster. You didn't add in a raises for Pence or Kendrick who are still arbitration eligible either.

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