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08:23 AM ET 11.17 | Newly named manager of the year Joe Maddon, at least theoretically, looks forward to a long and fruitful career in Florida. "I don't want to have to go anywhere else for all the reasons I've already described." And that is the line you might worry about. The idea Maddon might "have to go" somewhere else. Why would this be the case? Two reasons. No. 1, if he becomes concerned that Stuart Sternberg might sell the team or that the payroll will be permanently locked in at baseball's poverty level. No. 2, if he decides that he's being asked to leave too much money on the table in these contract negotiations. Maddon's current salary is in the $1.3 million range. ... For a two-time manager of the year, that is unacceptable.

St. Petersburg Times

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November 17, 2011  08:30 AM ET

The guy is a great manager. He needs a better environment if he's ever going to put a ring on his finger. It just isn't going to happen in Tampa.

November 17, 2011  08:34 AM ET

I had high hopes that we'd see him in STL but I'm getting used to the fact that won't happen. I wish him the very best

November 17, 2011  08:49 AM ET

He likes to cycle down Bayshore Blvd. a little too much to leave. He's staying.

November 17, 2011  08:52 AM ET

Maybe he is staying in hopes that we get a new stadium on the right side of the bay. And more money. The guy did a lot by making the playoffs a 2nd year in a row after losing his fastest player, his biggest homerun hitter, the entire bullpen, and a 15 game winner.

November 17, 2011  09:14 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Maybe he is staying in hopes that we get a new stadium on the right side of the bay. And more money. The guy did a lot by making the playoffs a 2nd year in a row after losing his fastest player, his biggest homerun hitter, the entire bullpen, and a 15 game winner.

I really hope he stays and keeps TB competitive but money has a way of complicating matters.

Unfortunately the Rays are not going to change the way they do things, at least for the near future due to their solid play. Face it, the way the game is played on and off the field is all run by money. The have's get more than the have nots.

November 17, 2011  09:27 AM ET

Its funny because I could see this guy going to a team with all the resource he ever wanted and then fall on his face...he gets recognized as being an excellent manager because he keeps pulling rabbits out of the hat ...but if all the rabbits are already on the table....who knows???

November 17, 2011  09:39 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I really hope he stays and keeps TB competitive but money has a way of complicating matters. Unfortunately the Rays are not going to change the way they do things, at least for the near future due to their solid play. Face it, the way the game is played on and off the field is all run by money. The have's get more than the have nots.

I really do not like the business side of baseball. But you are right. The Rays have little resources to make moves to get us over the hump to Advance in the playoffs. Maybe if they decide to do the realignment of divisions it will help both the Rays and the Tribe. That way we won't play NY or BOS 18 times each per season.

November 17, 2011  09:42 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Its funny because I could see this guy going to a team with all the resource he ever wanted and then fall on his face...he gets recognized as being an excellent manager because he keeps pulling rabbits out of the hat ...but if all the rabbits are already on the table....who knows???

I will admit I question a lot of his moves and think to myself "That'll never work", but 8 of 10 times it does. If he is pulling rabbits out of hats then he is picking the right hats, if the rabbits are all on the table then they seem to leave good luck pellets everywhere.

November 17, 2011  09:44 AM ET
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Its funny because I could see this guy going to a team with all the resource he ever wanted and then fall on his face...he gets recognized as being an excellent manager because he keeps pulling rabbits out of the hat ...but if all the rabbits are already on the table....who knows???

Interesting observation.

His strength as a manager is not his in-game strategies or his incredible ability to fill out a lineup card by drawing names out of a hat. He maintains an even keel, keeps the players loose, helps them have fun, mixes things up and keeps it interesting. In other words he makes for an excellent clubhouse attitude.

This has been done with young, low paid players. Would it be the same with a stockpile of veteran high priced players. I don't know, maybe not.

I think he is very comfortable in Tampa and will stay and take less than he would get elsewhere. If the Angels job opens up then that thought could change. There is very little pressure on a manager (or a GM for that matter) when the low payroll excuse is built into the system. Every season you can only overachieve and never underachieve at those payroll levels.

November 17, 2011  09:51 AM ET
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There is very little pressure on a manager (or a GM for that matter) when the low payroll excuse is built into the system. Every season you can only overachieve and never underachieve at those payroll levels.

My point exactly....

November 17, 2011  10:07 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Maybe he is staying in hopes that we get a new stadium on the right side of the bay. And more money. The guy did a lot by making the playoffs a 2nd year in a row after losing his fastest player, his biggest homerun hitter, the entire bullpen, and a 15 game winner.

Yeah a lot left but there's still a lot there to get excited about. The young guys that come up from the minors and pitch great even in the playoffs.

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November 17, 2011  10:46 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

The guy is a great manager. He needs a better environment if he's ever going to put a ring on his finger. It just isn't going to happen in Tampa.

I don't follow. They've made the playoffs three times in four years, and made the World Series once. Tampa probably has better odds than half the other teams in the MLB in winning a World Series over the next five years, even with Boston and NY in their division.

November 17, 2011  11:00 AM ET

He isn't leaving.

November 17, 2011  11:21 AM ET

Maybe he'll decide to go manage for a franchise that doesn't draw 18k for crucial end-of-season games and can sell out playoff games. Tampa is the *last* team in MLB to feel sorry for. Great team, great manager, winning ballclub, and they can't draw flies.

November 17, 2011  11:39 AM ET

this guy is a loyal man, he'll be TB needs to ante up the deal. Loyality only goes so far, don't insult the man. I'm sure that if he were available the Cardinals would have thought long and hard, he's probably the only guy that they would have gone outside of their organization for.

November 17, 2011  11:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Maybe he'll decide to go manage for a franchise that doesn't draw 18k for crucial end-of-season games and can sell out playoff games. Tampa is the *last* team in MLB to feel sorry for. Great team, great manager, winning ballclub, and they can't draw flies.

its the ballpark, its a joke! I mean pop flies hitting the rafters, give me a break! Maybe they should go to a blue field ala Boise St and make it the total Mickey Mouse experience? They'd be better of in someplace like Louisville who once drew over a million fans for triple A. Or...maybe they could move to Bosie....

November 17, 2011  11:49 AM ET

Move the team. Maddon may want a payday someday, not to piss on a mill a year, but he could get more.

November 17, 2011  11:50 AM ET

Maddon strikes me as a person who really values quality of life above salary and I think that might be a driving force in whatever he does.

 
November 17, 2011  12:23 PM ET

As a Red Sox fan, he'd be my Dream Candidate for Manager.

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