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08:21 AM ET 12.01 | In some ways, Phil Hughes' 18-win season seems like a distant memory. When you talk about the Yankees' top pitching prospects, the names Manny Banuelos and Dellin Betances jump off the tongue. That's how it was with [Hughes] for most of the past seven years, but the righthander is now 25 years old and heading into what could be a make-or-break season. "I'm at a point where the patience is running out," Hughes said Wednesday during a telephone interview with the Daily News. "I'm not a prospect anymore and I'm not 21 years old anymore. You're gauged on what kind of year you had, not what you're capable of doing." ... [Hughes] began throwing three weeks ago, nearly a month earlier than he has in the past.

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December 1, 2011  08:58 AM ET

He could always go to Arizona or Atlanta where he could become a Cy Young contender.

Ian Kennedy and Javier Vasquez agree with this statement.

December 1, 2011  09:03 AM ET
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He could always go to Arizona or Atlanta where he could become a Cy Young contender. Ian Kennedy and Javier Vasquez agree with this statement.

I think you make a good general point that maybe he needs a different environment to thrive.

I haven't seen the splits, but Yankee Stadium is a hitter's park. That can't help. I would mind seeing him pitch regularly in Comerica for the Tigers.

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December 1, 2011  09:07 AM ET
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I think you make a good general point that maybe he needs a different environment to thrive.I haven't seen the splits, but Yankee Stadium is a hitter's park. That can't help. I would mind seeing him pitch regularly in Comerica for the Tigers.

Don't get me wrong, I like Hughes. But pitching in that ballpark in that division wears some pitchers, most in fact, out. There are a number of pitchers in baseball that could thrive for a short period of time in the AL East but the constant night after night pitching in ballparks the size of little league fields is a killer for most.

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December 1, 2011  09:13 AM ET
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Don't get me wrong, I like Hughes. But pitching in that ballpark in that division wears some pitchers, most in fact, out. There are a number of pitchers in baseball that could thrive for a short period of time in the AL East but the constant night after night pitching in ballparks the size of little league fields is a killer for most.

as far as I can see his problems are not related to park size. though clearly his numbers would be lower in the NL West.

December 1, 2011  09:16 AM ET
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Don't get me wrong, I like Hughes. But pitching in that ballpark in that division wears some pitchers, most in fact, out. There are a number of pitchers in baseball that could thrive for a short period of time in the AL East but the constant night after night pitching in ballparks the size of little league fields is a killer for most.

Pitching in New York with a crazy media attention will wear you out!

December 1, 2011  09:18 AM ET

Give him credit at least he realizes if he doesn't turn it around this year...his time with Yankees is probably over...if these so called prospects are as good as the hype.....

December 1, 2011  09:19 AM ET

If he moved to the NL, his ERA would drop a full point. Hughes is a good pitcher with great run support. His problem is that he has to face the Red Sox, Rays, and Bluejays far too often.

December 1, 2011  09:20 AM ET
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He could always go to Arizona or Atlanta where he could become a Cy Young contender. Ian Kennedy and Javier Vasquez agree with this statement.

The Yankees do not regret that deal, it was a win win for all. Curtis Granderson came in that three way trade.

December 1, 2011  09:21 AM ET
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Give him credit at least he realizes if he doesn't turn it around this year...his time with Yankees is probably over...if these so called prospects are as good as the hype.....

He is a decent kid. Up to him now.

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December 1, 2011  09:22 AM ET
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as far as I can see his problems are not related to park size. though clearly his numbers would be lower in the NL West.

For reasons they still do not know, his fastball dropped to around 88 mph when they sent him down to work it out.
Who knows?

December 1, 2011  09:22 AM ET

I am glad the kid actually "gets it". He has great stuff, I think some of his problems (not shoulder-related) are mental. This guy doesn't seem to trust his stuff, and gives in to hitters too often.

December 1, 2011  09:24 AM ET

Hughes was really awesome when his fastball sat at 95 MPH.

Most pitchers are more effective with a 95 MPH fastball vs. an 89 MPH fastball.

December 1, 2011  09:25 AM ET
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He could always go to Arizona or Atlanta where he could become a Cy Young contender. Ian Kennedy and Javier Vasquez agree with this statement.

Kennedy is a typical National League bloated-stats pitcher. Send him back to the AL Beast and his stats take a serious dive. Check out Chris Carpenter with the Jays or Clemens in Houston if you want samples of the National League effect. When hitters 6-8 are hitting their weight and the #9 is an automatic out, lineups are much easier to navigate through.

December 1, 2011  09:25 AM ET
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If he moved to the NL, his ERA would drop a full point. Hughes is a good pitcher with great run support. His problem is that he has to face the Red Sox, Rays, and Bluejays far too often.

Last season, his problem wasn't the teams he was pitching to. It was the fact that he kept throwing balls that just spun, out over the plate. Even the Giants hit those pitches.

December 1, 2011  09:26 AM ET

One other thing. Hughes was never dominant at the major league level. The 18 wins were a result of good (not electric) pitching and having an elite offense.

I think in general we get too hyped about prospects. Dominating a AA or A lineup is light years away from dominating a MLB lineup.

December 1, 2011  09:27 AM ET
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The Yankees do not regret that deal, it was a win win for all. Curtis Granderson came in that three way trade.

That deal was a win for all involved.

 
December 1, 2011  09:33 AM ET
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Last season, his problem wasn't the teams he was pitching to. It was the fact that he kept throwing balls that just spun, out over the plate. Even the Giants hit those pitches.

Perhaps he ran out of HGH since his fastball dipped into the 80's.

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