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08:42 AM ET 12.03 | If owner Jeffrey Lurie and team president Joe Banner become convinced that the Eagles have quit, that they are not just losing but are a joke, then it will become increasingly difficult to justify retaining coach Andy Reid to a fan base that is already roiling with anger and disappointment. It's unclear how exactly they see the situation, because, as is their custom during the season, neither Lurie nor Banner have spoken publicly about the team. Banner, in the morose locker room Thursday night, declined a request for comment.

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December 3, 2011  08:57 AM ET

I do believe if a more accomplished coach like Cowher were able to come in and take over this team it would be a great fit. If instead they were to fire Reid for an unknown with no experience I would say NO!

December 3, 2011  09:03 AM ET

Was it Bill Walsh who said a coach should stay with a team no more than ten years? I think Reid is a great coach, but I think it's time to go with something different. Oh, and while you're moving out Andy Reid, you might want to consider getting rid of Desean Jackson as well.

December 3, 2011  09:17 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Was it Bill Walsh who said a coach should stay with a team no more than ten years? I think Reid is a great coach, but I think it's time to go with something different. Oh, and while you're moving out Andy Reid, you might want to consider getting rid of Desean Jackson as well.

I agree on getting rid of Jackson. He's a quitter, no two ways about it. I don't care what his contract status is, he's still getting paid for a contract he signed. Take a page out of Matt Forte's book and play your **** off... prove you're worthy of that money you think you deserve.

All Jackson has done is show the world what he's capable of if he's unhappy about anything.

December 3, 2011  09:24 AM ET

Fire every coach in the league with a waist line over 42. For Gods sake man your on national TV. Nobody wants to see that.

December 3, 2011  09:25 AM ET
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I agree on getting rid of Jackson. He's a quitter, no two ways about it. I don't care what his contract status is, he's still getting paid for a contract he signed. Take a page out of Matt Forte's book and play your **** off... prove you're worthy of that money you think you deserve. All Jackson has done is show the world what he's capable of if he's unhappy about anything.

Regarding Matt Forte. . . PAY THE MAN!

December 3, 2011  09:27 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

I do believe if a more accomplished coach like Cowher were able to come in and take over this team it would be a great fit. If instead they were to fire Reid for an unknown with no experience I would say NO!

Bill Cowher would never work in Philadelphia.

It only took him 14 years to win a Super Bowl with the Steelers. Isn't that the same problem Philadelphia has with Andy Reid? Reid's been with the Eagles for 13 years and the fans are tired of waiting.

And that was Cowher with arguably the best defensive coordinator all-time and a much better scouting departing.

December 3, 2011  09:31 AM ET

I wonder if Candy Reid goes to the same gym as Ryan? In the words of Fat ****; he has more chins than a Chinese phonebook

December 3, 2011  09:32 AM ET

I believe he's going.....going.....gone

December 3, 2011  09:44 AM ET

Andy Reid has won A LOT of games over the past 12 years.

BUT:

1) His team has lost 4 NFC Championship Games and 1 Super Bowl
2) He refused to provide Donovan McNabb capable WR's, while Donovan was in his prime....other than TO.
3) TO rehabs from a broken leg in Week 14 to play in the Super Bowl. Plays great. Then you refuse to renegotiate his contract, which "low balled" him in the first place.
4) He has refused to place value on the LB position.
5) He is dreadful in clock management.
6) He named an Offensive Line Coach, his Defensive Coordinator!!!
7) He lives to trade down on Draft Day, bypassing good talent for volume of picks. PS, there is a reason why Kurt Coleman lasts until the 7th round on draft day.
8) He enjoys drafting DE's that are undersized.
9) He wants to run a system like the Pats, Pack, or Saints but continues to place QB's that are athletic but inaccurate in control.

I am rambling but for the people outside of Philly, don't get too caught up in his ability to take his team to the playoffs.

December 3, 2011  09:46 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Was it Bill Walsh who said a coach should stay with a team no more than ten years?

Don Shula disagrees.

December 3, 2011  09:46 AM ET

I don't think Cowher or Gruden are realistic replacements. I think their names have been overhyped the longer they remain away from the game.

December 3, 2011  09:50 AM ET

As far as Desean Jackson is concerned. Another strike versus Reid/Management.

You know what type of personality Desean Jackson is. You know that he is unhappy to be playing under his 2nd round pick contract. You know that he has outplayed that contract. BUT you give a Steve Smith $2 million guaranteed, coming off knee surgery to play at Desean's position. Any rational person is going to see where that is headed.

If he and Rosenhaus were holding out for Larry Fitz money, than fine. But it sounded like they were willing to negotiate and they were flatly denied.

December 3, 2011  09:53 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Andy Reid has won A LOT of games ................... athletic but inaccurate in control. I am rambling but for the people outside of Philly, don't get too caught up in his ability to take his team to the playoffs.

No your not rambling, pretty good points.

December 3, 2011  09:54 AM ET
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As far as Desean Jackson is concerned. Another strike versus Reid/Management........... But it sounded like they were willing to negotiate and they were flatly denied.

Is Reid heavily involved in player selection and $$ matters or does he turn most of that over to mgmt and Lurie?

December 3, 2011  09:58 AM ET
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Is Reid heavily involved in player selection and $$ matters or does he turn most of that over to mgmt and Lurie?

Reid is the top man in all of it.

Roseman was named GM a couple years ago when Heckert went to Cleveland. The belief is that Heckert was just a yes man for Reid and that Roseman has a bit more power.

Banner controls the money, but Reid is extremely involved in who he wants to sign or extend.

December 3, 2011  10:03 AM ET
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Reid is the top man in all of it.Roseman was named GM a couple years ago when Heckert went to Cleveland. The belief is that Heckert was just a yes man for Reid and that Roseman has a bit more power.Banner controls the money, but Reid is extremely involved in who he wants to sign or extend.

Well then he needs to "eat" (no pun intended) some more of the responsibility for this year's debacle. No offense to Eagle fans but seeing the turmoil, under-achieving, angst, performance, from the Eagles this year reminds me of J Jones' failed experiments with FAs and pouring money in all the wrong places. Dan Snyder another example of failed player management

December 3, 2011  10:04 AM ET

Here is another Reid fumble.

Brian Dawkins, the heart and soul of your team is about to enter free agency. You offer him a one year deal because you are afraid that his coverage ability has diminished. He gets 2 year, $7.5 million offer from Denver. He asks the Eagles to ONLY match it because he wants to retire an Eagle. They decline. He is in his 3rd year with Denver starting for one of the best D's in the league. Meanwhile the Eagles have drafted Nate Allen, Jaquan Jarrett, Kurt Coleman and none of them have been good.

December 3, 2011  10:15 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Well then he needs to "eat" (no pun intended) some more of the responsibility for this year's debacle. No offense to Eagle fans but seeing the turmoil, under-achieving, angst, performance, from the Eagles this year reminds me of J Jones' failed experiments with FAs and pouring money in all the wrong places. Dan Snyder another example of failed player management

I hear what you are saying about the Dan Snyder/JJ references but I will say this.

Jason Babin and Cullen Jenkins were 2 of the free agents the Eagles signed and they have been awesome. Who didn't want to sign Nnamdi in the late Summer? Those are you 3 major signings.

They traded Kolb for DRC, and DRC has been a failure BUT he's also been played out of position. They signed Ronnie Brown, Vince Young, and Steve Smith at bargain basement rates.

The problem is the guys that were here in the first place.... or drafted. The past two drafts have been nightmares so far. Brandon Graham, Nate Allen, Jaquan Jarrett, Danny Watkins, Casey Matthews, Jamar Chaney, Keenan Clayton have all been either hurt or ineffective.

December 3, 2011  10:22 AM ET
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Here is another Reid fumble.Brian Dawkins, the heart and soul of your team is about to enter free agency. You offer him a one year deal because you are afraid that his coverage ability has diminished. He gets 2 year, $7.5 million offer from Denver. He asks the Eagles to ONLY match it because he wants to retire an Eagle. They decline. He is in his 3rd year with Denver starting for one of the best D's in the league. Meanwhile the Eagles have drafted Nate Allen, Jaquan Jarrett, Kurt Coleman and none of them have been good.

a travesty

 
December 3, 2011  10:44 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

I believe he's going.....going.....gone

I have this gut feeling that Reid would be more than happy to move on. This may be a two way street to the point that Reid wants out of there.
He will get other offers and maybe it is time.

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