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08:11 AM ET 12.06 | Competing in some ways with the Heat, Jeffrey Loria is aiming to put together his own dream team in South Florida. [Loria] says the Marlins can add more, and you'd better believe it. The Marlins met twice with the agent for Albert Pujols on Monday, sources said late Monday night, boosting its nine-year offer in the process and giving the slugger even more to think about. No decision was imminent as midnight approached, and one person with knowledge of the talks said they likely will play out more before a decision is reached. The Cardinals also met with Pujols' agent, Dan Lozano, on Monday, and so did the Cubs. But it is the Marlins who have stolen the show early in these winter meetings.

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December 6, 2011  08:25 AM ET

It's P-U-J-O-L-S!

December 6, 2011  08:50 AM ET
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It's P-U-J-O-L-S!

Cards may have to up their 9 year $198M offer they have on the table. As a Cards fan do you think they will........or should?

December 6, 2011  09:08 AM ET

Show me the MONEY!

December 6, 2011  09:13 AM ET
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Cards may have to up their 9 year $198M offer they have on the table. As a Cards fan do you think they will........or should?

They may have to but I wish they wouldn't! I'd offer him 5/$150M, with an option year or 2, set a deadline and be done with it. There are other needs that the team has to address and the hemming and hawing between both parties are just wasting time.

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December 6, 2011  09:19 AM ET
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They may have to but I wish they wouldn't! I'd offer him 5/$150M, with an option year or 2, set a deadline and be done with it. There are other needs that the team has to address and the hemming and hawing between both parties are just wasting time.

I agree, that's a lot of money for a mid market team to tie up in one player. Look what happened to the Twins when they thought they had no choice but give Mauer the money. IMO St. Louis should let him walk and invest the money elsewhere.

December 6, 2011  09:22 AM ET

Being a Cardinal fan, I have heard all the rumors, stories, etc. I as well as a lot of other Cardinal fans are tired of hearing about this issue. No one can dispute Pujols is the best baseball player on the market, and possibly of all time. We all know the impact it would have to lose this on any team, but at some point the "team" has to be thought of and not an individual player. If he wants to leave behind his legacy in St Louis (being drove out in golf carts with Stan Musial at major games, and playing for a true contending team) then let him go! Lets sign Fielder (younger, less money) and move on.....Apparently he is willing to, so we (team, fans) need to be willing as well!

December 6, 2011  09:24 AM ET
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I agree, that's a lot of money for a mid market team to tie up in one player. Look what happened to the Twins when they thought they had no choice but give Mauer the money. IMO St. Louis should let him walk and invest the money elsewhere.

I agree and Mauer is younger than AP but still.......... I don't know what kind of attendance the Twins draw each year.

I know the Cards front office is concerned about the possible attendance hit, if they DON'T sign AP, but you can't break the bank on a 31 year old player, who often plays hurt.

December 6, 2011  09:26 AM ET
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Being a Cardinal fan, I have heard all the rumors, stories, etc. I as well as a lot of other Cardinal fans are tired of hearing about this issue. No one can dispute Pujols is the best baseball player on the market, and possibly of all time. We all know the impact it would have to lose this on any team, but at some point the "team" has to be thought of and not an individual player. If he wants to leave behind his legacy in St Louis (being drove out in golf carts with Stan Musial at major games, and playing for a true contending team) then let him go! Lets sign Fielder (younger, less money) and move on.....Apparently he is willing to, so we (team, fans) need to be willing as well!

Good points - I've been willing to move on for a while now.

If he only wants the money, then anything else he's said (about wanting to win, etc) is pure BS.

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December 6, 2011  09:46 AM ET

We'll see if he stays, Lou. I don't have the faith that you do and I'm not going to try and change your mind. One thing I will say - everyone is comparing Albert to Stan but perhaps they forget that Stan didn't have the choice to leave. He didn't have free agency during the time he played.

It's Albert's right to get the best deal and as a fan, I'll either like it or I won't but I won't shed any tears.

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December 6, 2011  10:03 AM ET
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I pretty much agree with a lot of the banter - limiting the time of the deal, up it to just so much, etc. However; and I may be naive to say this, I just don't think he is going anywhere (wishful thinking). StL has one man that was a true franchise player (Stan the Man). I think there is a lot of respect that can come from that moniker - and AP is just about there. If he stays - and plays even the way he did this year - he'll be an ICON for a very long time. That is ultimate respect. I think there are some other factors at play here that may sway the stay to StL. StL does SEEM to be where AP's family wants to be. That is huge IMO. StL is the Pujols family's home. So - with that said - I think they will go 7 years at 30 a year - with some team ownership to sweeten the deal. They were willing to go 9 before just not at the level he wanted. So we will see. As far as getting it overwith - don't really care - I just want it done before spring training. Otherwise - just pull up a seat - grab the popcorn - and watch the circus.

9 years would be insane. Everyone knows those last 2 or 3 years will be wasted money.

December 6, 2011  10:07 AM ET
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We'll see if he stays, Lou. I don't have the faith that you do and I'm not going to try and change your mind. One thing I will say - everyone is comparing Albert to Stan but perhaps they forget that Stan didn't have the choice to leave. He didn't have free agency during the time he played.It's Albert's right to get the best deal and as a fan, I'll either like it or I won't but I won't shed any tears.

Good point. All those iconic players from the past didn't have a choice. And you know if they had free agency back in the 50's, someone like Feller, Williams, Mantle or Musial would have made a move for more money.

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December 6, 2011  10:09 AM ET

I don't think he's going anywhere, but if I'm Mozeliak I don't offer up anything better. I'm already concerned about paying him $25M or more when he's in his upper 30's. I wouldn't go any deeper.

I tend to agree with what Lou and dkraider said here. If you're Albert do you want to be a Cardinal legend an icon with a big statue next to Musial at Busch, spending your career with one of the great franchises in sports history......or do you want to go play for a fly by night franchise for a few million more? Like SGB said, if he just wants the money.....let him go.

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December 6, 2011  10:13 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Being a Cardinal fan, I have heard all the rumors, stories, etc. I as well as a lot of other Cardinal fans are tired of hearing about this issue. No one can dispute Pujols is the best baseball player on the market, and possibly of all time. We all know the impact it would have to lose this on any team, but at some point the "team" has to be thought of and not an individual player. If he wants to leave behind his legacy in St Louis (being drove out in golf carts with Stan Musial at major games, and playing for a true contending team) then let him go! Lets sign Fielder (younger, less money) and move on.....Apparently he is willing to, so we (team, fans) need to be willing as well!

You make valid points .....I think it's just come to the issue of him being regarded as the best player in the league for a few years now ..and now he wants to be paid as the best player in the league....so your talking $30mil plus a year....Can the Cardinals afford $150-160 million for 5 years if so he stays if not it's hasta la vista baby...and Miami here comes Pujols....

 
December 6, 2011  10:16 AM ET
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9 years would be insane. Everyone knows those last 2 or 3 years will be wasted money.

His agent is probably going to try and throw in one of those after 3 years we rip it up and renegotiate clauses ...so when the market starts shifting higher <can't believe I just said that> he'll be able to get paid again.....it's becoming a joke.....

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