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08:11 AM ET 12.08 | According to a report earlier this week, the idea of landing C.J. Wilson and Albert Pujols would be absurd in Anaheim, but others disagree. Logic would seem to dictate that the Angels cannot afford both Pujols and Wilson for more than $300 million combined. But the better question might be: If the Angels get one, why shouldn't they get both? And for that matter, why shouldn't they keep rather than trade righty Ervin Santana, who would become an $11.2 million fourth starter next season? Wilson, who is "more likely than not" to sign with the Angels, according to a major league source, likely will command a deal in the range of Angels right-hander Jered Weaver's five-year, $85 million contract.

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December 8, 2011  08:25 AM ET

.....after these two deals are in the books, new power ranking in al will be: 1. angels 2. tigers 3. rangers 4. rays 5. red sox 6. orioles 7. yanks 8. indians 9. royals 10. blue jays

December 8, 2011  08:27 AM ET

Pujols would be one helluva an expensive DH in 4-5 yrs.

December 8, 2011  08:35 AM ET

STL needs to set a deadline to pull their offer off the table and move on with the rest of the team's needs

December 8, 2011  08:51 AM ET
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STL needs to set a deadline to pull their offer off the table and move on with the rest of the team's needs

agreed. seems like AP just got some teams into a bidding war to force the Cards' hand on their own offer...am i off base thinking such a thing? besides, if he really loved STL the way he said he did, none of this crappola would have taken place.

December 8, 2011  08:52 AM ET

That owner adding that much payroll? Right!!!!!

December 8, 2011  09:04 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

agreed. seems like AP just got some teams into a bidding war to force the Cards' hand on their own offer...am i off base thinking such a thing? besides, if he really loved STL the way he said he did, none of this crappola would have taken place.

The Cards are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

December 8, 2011  09:06 AM ET

Adding a player like Pujols is a once in a lifetime possibility. Wilson on the other hand is just another pitcher.

If the Angels offer Pujols anywhere near $25 million a year, there is no way that the Cardinals will be able to match.

December 8, 2011  09:27 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

agreed. seems like AP just got some teams into a bidding war to force the Cards' hand on their own offer...am i off base thinking such a thing? besides, if he really loved STL the way he said he did, none of this crappola would have taken place.

I don't know that it's AP, so much as his sleazy agent, who is in financial trouble again, but you are not off-base at all, IMO.

Looks like I believed AP's pack of lies. I have to stop being so damned gullible! LOL

December 8, 2011  09:28 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Adding a player like Pujols is a once in a lifetime possibility. Wilson on the other hand is just another pitcher. If the Angels offer Pujols anywhere near $25 million a year, there is no way that the Cardinals will be able to match.

There is no way the Cards SHOULD match!

December 8, 2011  09:29 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

agreed. seems like AP just got some teams into a bidding war to force the Cards' hand on their own offer...am i off base thinking such a thing? besides, if he really loved STL the way he said he did, none of this crappola would have taken place.

I think you are right. Pujols is trying to get the Cards to match the offer the Fish gave him. Now that the Fish dropped out, he's trying to find someone else to use as a lever.

December 8, 2011  09:30 AM ET
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Adding a player like Pujols is a once in a lifetime possibility. Wilson on the other hand is just another pitcher. If the Angels offer Pujols anywhere near $25 million a year, there is no way that the Cardinals will be able to match.

I'd agree if it was a 25 year old AP. But it's not. It's a 31 year old AP, who's performance will start to slip in a few years. I do agree that the Cards aren't going to match a 10/$250MM offer.

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December 8, 2011  09:37 AM ET
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I'd agree if it was a 25 year old AP. But it's not. It's a 31 year old AP, who's performance will start to slip in a few years. I do agree that the Cards aren't going to match a 10/$250MM offer.

yep, and that pesky hand injury (or was it his wrist?) that he was dealing with last year...that will become an issue for him again.

December 8, 2011  09:41 AM ET
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.....after these two deals are in the books, new power ranking in al will be: 1. angels 2. tigers 3. rangers 4. rays 5. red sox 6. orioles 7. yanks 8. indians 9. royals 10. blue jays

I see you're living up to your moniker again today.

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December 8, 2011  09:43 AM ET
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Yep - Right now - I think it's all about finding the "fair market value". This is a tough case of one of the best players (potentially in the history of the game) - and nobody really knows what the "worth" is in today's form of the game. And he has a right to try and find out. And StL needs to realize he does have something coming to him given the "bargain" he's been for the last 10 years - with 3 WS appearances and 2 rings. So - let it play out. Ignore the swirl of rumor, innuendo and just plain craziness and enjoy the winter months moshing on other subjects that could be more fun to talk about.

all fair points. but hearing that mess from AP and his agent about 'loving STL, the city and the team' (not a verbatim quote, mind you) seems so hollow given the giant bidding war that's been taking place.

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December 8, 2011  10:01 AM ET
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I think you are right. Pujols is trying to get the Cards to match the offer the Fish gave him. Now that the Fish dropped out, he's trying to find someone else to use as a lever.

and putting myself in the Marlins FO 'shoes', why continue to go after AP when you already have a few big bats on the roster? besides, they don't know if Johnson will be 100% when ST starts so i think they used that as their motivation to concentrate on (and sign) Buerhle.

December 8, 2011  10:03 AM ET
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agreed. seems like AP just got some teams into a bidding war to force the Cards' hand on their own offer...am i off base thinking such a thing? besides, if he really loved STL the way he said he did, none of this crappola would have taken place.

You are 100% correct.

 
December 8, 2011  10:05 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

I'd agree if it was a 25 year old AP. But it's not. It's a 31 year old AP, who's performance will start to slip in a few years. I do agree that the Cards aren't going to match a 10/$250MM offer.

Exactly. If Albert was even 27-28, I'd have no real problem with a 10 year deal given who he is and what he has contributed. I expect him to be very productive until around 35, so if we were going to pay him a couple of years to be less productive at the end of the deal, I could live with that. At 32 though, a 10 year deal is an act of lunacy.

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