Yankees play it cool on 'Darvish eve'

No matter how good a guy is in Japan or plays during the WBC, they still have to prove themselves here and for the money that gets spent on a team doesn't have the luxury of putting these guys in the minors to see what they can do.

It will be interesting to see which organization is awarded the negotiation rights.

The Curse of Kei Igawa, and Matsuzaka, and Irabu and.......

Has nobody learned from the past about the Japanese pitchers? Not to say there's no talent, but the cash it takes to acquire one is exorbitant.

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Originally posted 08:41 AM ET  12.14 by h2opololpunk

Has nobody learned from the past about the Japanese pitchers? Not to say there's no talent, but the cash it takes to acquire one is exorbitant.

Kei Igawa is costing the Yanks about 9 mil a year and is a minor league pitcher. Matsuzaka is costing the Sox around 16 mil a year, on average between posting and salary. Insurance will end up paying this year and probably some of next year's salary of 10 million.

Outside of Suzuki, the history isn't good.

I have a bad feeling he lands in Boston given Valentine's opinion of him.

<throw's up>

Another Japanese crap shoot.....when are the GM's gonna realize that just because your good over in Japan doesn't mean your gonna be good over here..

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Originally posted 08:48 AM ET  12.14 by Schad - Notorious Deadbeat

Kei Igawa is costing the Yanks about 9 mil a year and is a minor league pitcher. Matsuzaka is costing the Sox around 16 mil a year, on average between posting and salary. Insurance will end up paying this year and probably some of next year's salary of 10 million.Outside of Suzuki, the history isn't good.

Hideo Nomo and Masato Yoshii.....were probably two of the better ones to come over....

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Originally posted 08:49 AM ET  12.14 by Schad - Notorious Deadbeat

I have a bad feeling he lands in Boston given Valentine's opinion of him. <throw's up>

I'd be shocked. Henry is still pissed off on how last year ended. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox didn't even post a bid.

QUOTE(#6):

Originally posted 08:48 AM ET  12.14 by Schad - Notorious Deadbeat

Kei Igawa is costing the Yanks about 9 mil a year and is a minor league pitcher. Matsuzaka is costing the Sox around 16 mil a year, on average between posting and salary. Insurance will end up paying this year and probably some of next year's salary of 10 million.Outside of Suzuki, the history isn't good.

Igawa is now off the books.

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Originally posted 08:56 AM ET  12.14 by jnorman41

I'd be shocked. Henry is still pissed off on how last year ended. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox didn't even post a bid.

they are down 2 starters from the beginning of last year, 3 if you count Wakefield. Bedard signed with another team as well.

Right now, you have:

Lester
Buchholz
Beckett
Bard(?)
<Insert pitcher here>

Matsuzaka and Lackey are probably out for the year. They have to do something to fill in the back of the rotation, unless they throw in the towel and wait until next year for Pothead and Co.

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Originally posted 08:56 AM ET  12.14 by Sgt. Schultz

Hideo Nomo and Masato Yoshii.....were probably two of the better ones to come over....

Yes, I always think back to Nomo, especially. He may be the precedent that everyone is chasing with these current Japanese pitchers.

QUOTE(#6):

Originally posted 08:48 AM ET  12.14 by Schad - Notorious Deadbeat

Kei Igawa is costing the Yanks about 9 mil a year and is a minor league pitcher. Matsuzaka is costing the Sox around 16 mil a year, on average between posting and salary. Insurance will end up paying this year and probably some of next year's salary of 10 million.Outside of Suzuki, the history isn't good.

Also... I don't think insurance covers the, what, $50 million posting fee the BoSox paid just to negotiate a contract?

You might as well flush that money down a toilet. **** the gyro-ball... better off buying a boat load of gyros sandwiches.

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Originally posted 09:00 AM ET  12.14 by h2opololpunk

Yes, I always think back to Nomo, especially. He may be the precedent that everyone is chasing with these current Japanese pitchers.

Without a doubt....IMO if your gonna go after the Japanese guys I would look at the veteran guys before younger guys...and it would only be for bullpen help....

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Originally posted 08:41 AM ET  12.14 by Schad - Notorious Deadbeat

The Curse of Kei Igawa, and Matsuzaka, and Irabu and.......

This ^^^^

Shell out $50M to talk to him, another $50M to sign him... and maybe get a .500 pitcher.


I'll pass.

QUOTE(#12):

Originally posted 09:00 AM ET  12.14 by Schad - Notorious Deadbeat

they are down 2 starters from the beginning of last year, 3 if you count Wakefield. Bedard signed with another team as well.Right now, you have:LesterBuchholzBeckettBard(?)<Insert pitcher here>Matsuzaka and Lackey are probably out for the year. They have to do something to fill in the back of the rotation, unless they throw in the towel and wait until next year for Pothead and Co.

I really believe they'll fill out the rotation with either Aceves or Doubront. Maybe sign a low cost veteren. Unless they can work out a trade. Just don't see Henry shelling out another $100M for a unproven pitcher.

QUOTE(#12):

Originally posted 09:00 AM ET  12.14 by Schad - Notorious Deadbeat

they are down 2 starters from the beginning of last year, 3 if you count Wakefield. Bedard signed with another team as well.Right now, you have:LesterBuchholzBeckettBard(?)<Insert pitcher here>Matsuzaka and Lackey are probably out for the year. They have to do something to fill in the back of the rotation, unless they throw in the towel and wait until next year for Pothead and Co.

I believe Aceves will be a starter as well.

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Originally posted 09:03 AM ET  12.14 by h2opololpunk

Also... I don't think insurance covers the, what, $50 million posting fee the BoSox paid just to negotiate a contract?You might as well flush that money down a toilet. **** the gyro-ball... better off buying a boat load of gyros sandwiches.

Nope, just the salary. It's a disaster, but the get out from under it next year.

Lackey on the other hand.....

<grabs air sickness bag from pile>