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07:15 AM ET 12.21 | Guess who's coming to Dallas wearing Flyers colors. How about Claude Giroux? While it's not 100 percent certain, all signs point to the Flyers' concussed center returning to the lineup Wednesday night against the Stars, a game that will air on VERSUS. At least two teammates are pretty certain he will play, and Giroux himself has kept open the possibility, saying, if he takes warm-ups tomorrow, he's in. There is no morning skate.

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December 21, 2011  08:07 AM ET

Giroux is the Flyers and possibly the MVP of the NHL at this point.

December 21, 2011  08:53 AM ET

I hate the Pens but I think Geno might have that MVP over Giroux. That being said, Giroux is definitely the Flyers MVP.

December 21, 2011  09:43 AM ET

Based on what we've seen so far this season, my Flyers homer opinion is that there's no way Malkin tops Giroux in an MVP discussion. That being said, i'd be surprised if Giroux would get the nod anyway.

December 21, 2011  09:45 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Based on what we've seen so far this season, my Flyers homer opinion is that there's no way Malkin tops Giroux in an MVP discussion. That being said, i'd be surprised if Giroux would get the nod anyway.

Let's Go Pens!!

December 21, 2011  09:51 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Based on what we've seen so far this season, my Flyers homer opinion is that there's no way Malkin tops Giroux in an MVP discussion. That being said, i'd be surprised if Giroux would get the nod anyway.

And in my homer opinion, how do you figure? I am not being a smart arse, I would like to know your argument. I will grant you some injuries, but Flyers have no way been depleted like the Pens for the considerable time. Things being the way the are, and if Claude comes back tomorrow and keeps up his point production, and the Pens' continue to go w/o their best defenseman and their top scorer in Crosby, I don't see how you give it to Claude over Malkin (considering Malkin keeps up his point production). Malkin has also (considering all these things) played less games than Claude so far. Again, this all depends on a LOT of variables, and we will have our biases, obviously.

I even wonder if Malkin will keep it up. I have doubted him a time or two in the past.

In regard to Claude, the first and foremost concern should be him NOT coming back too early. Otherwise, there is no sense in discussing MVP at all.

December 21, 2011  10:00 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

I hate the Pens but I think Geno might have that MVP over Giroux. That being said, Giroux is definitely the Flyers MVP.

Let's not over look Captain Serious.

December 21, 2011  10:00 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

And in my homer opinion, how do you figure? I am not being a smart arse, I would like to know your argument. I will grant you some injuries, but Flyers have no way been depleted like the Pens for the considerable time. Things being the way the are, and if Claude comes back tomorrow and keeps up his point production, and the Pens' continue to go w/o their best defenseman and their top scorer in Crosby, I don't see how you give it to Claude over Malkin (considering Malkin keeps up his point production). Malkin has also (considering all these things) played less games than Claude so far. Again, this all depends on a LOT of variables, and we will have our biases, obviously.I even wonder if Malkin will keep it up. I have doubted him a time or two in the past. In regard to Claude, the first and foremost concern should be him NOT coming back too early. Otherwise, there is no sense in discussing MVP at all.

Correction: Malkin has played one less game than CG, and I am sure that will change in a week or so... So, I stand corrected. For some reason, considering how many Malkin missed earlier in the season, I thought it might be more.

December 21, 2011  10:02 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Let's not over look Captain Serious.

Good point, captions not-so-serious!

December 21, 2011  10:09 AM ET

If he was truly concussed this is way too early. Not worth it

December 21, 2011  10:10 AM ET

Okay Cromser and Phantom---consider this your Merry Christmas from me.....

I am even spending the time to re-type since my original post was continually "saving"......

HTG---I would agree....having been transplanted to "helaware from NYC' I get to see the Flyers alot more than I should :)...especially as a Rag's fan.

With all the press and media madness around the departure of Carter, Richards and the big Bryz signing (both negative and positive) this kid has really been the shining star through all the dust. He really is a gem....and I wish him well. Giroux has had a huge hand in the success of their season to this point; and it would be a shame to lose him at this point........I would like to see Schenn crack the lineup permanently and stay healthy for them as well.......another good kid on their team....

Merry Christmas....Flyers Faithful

December 21, 2011  10:13 AM ET

Test

December 21, 2011  10:21 AM ET

Giroux, Pronger, Schenn, Couturier, Gustaffson, Lilja, Jagr... some of those guys are LTIR, some have been out for basically all season and some have been out and back already, but to say we've had "some injuries" doesn't really tell the story.

Aside from that, it shouldn't matter if Crosby or Kunitz is out when we're talking about MVP for Malkin. It's about what he's done, not what they haven't. If that was the case, it should go to Rick Nash every year. He's the only person on his team to ever show up.

Giroux plays in every situation, PP, PK 5v5, 4v4, OT. He makes everyone around him better. He's a good defensive player as well as dynamic offensively. Unlike Malkin, his heart and desire have never been questioned and he has more points this season.

December 21, 2011  10:23 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Based on what we've seen so far this season, my Flyers homer opinion is that there's no way Malkin tops Giroux in an MVP discussion. That being said, i'd be surprised if Giroux would get the nod anyway.

Way too early for this. Bring it up in March. I do hope Giroux can come back quickly just as long as he doesn't get a relapse.

December 21, 2011  10:25 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Okay Cromser and Phantom---consider this your Merry Christmas from me.....I am even spending the time to re-type since my original post was continually "saving"......HTG---I would agree....having been transplanted to "helaware from NYC' I get to see the Flyers alot more than I should :)...especially as a Rag's fan.With all the press and media madness around the departure of Carter, Richards and the big Bryz signing (both negative and positive) this kid has really been the shining star through all the dust. He really is a gem....and I wish him well. Giroux has had a huge hand in the success of their season to this point; and it would be a shame to lose him at this point........I would like to see Schenn crack the lineup permanently and stay healthy for them as well.......another good kid on their team....Merry Christmas....Flyers Faithful

Haha, and a Merry Christmas to you as well. I appreciate the re-type. I myself had a 3 page diatribe comparing Malkin and Giroux all typed out then i got the "saving" for five minutes and lost it all. That was probably karma.

December 21, 2011  10:32 AM ET

It honestly is nice watching him play; esp. since having been relocated to Helaware from NY; I get to see more than my fair share of Flyers games ???. More than I care to anyway???..
I hope he is not rushing himself to return and I hope he plays well beyond expectations for the Flyers. I would also like to see Schenn get healthy and stay up with the team on a full-time basis???.I???d like to see him develop into a fine little asset???.

Enough is enough with the compliments . Flyers Suck ;)

December 21, 2011  10:33 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

He's a good defensive player as well as dynamic offensively. Unlike Malkin, his heart and desire have never been questioned and he has more points this season.

Ouch! Little cross-state hatred so early :)

December 21, 2011  10:36 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Giroux, Pronger, Schenn, Couturier, Gustaffson, Lilja, Jagr... some of those guys are LTIR, some have been out for basically all season and some have been out and back already, but to say we've had "some injuries" doesn't really tell the story.Aside from that, it shouldn't matter if Crosby or Kunitz is out when we're talking about MVP for Malkin. It's about what he's done, not what they haven't. If that was the case, it should go to Rick Nash every year. He's the only person on his team to ever show up.Giroux plays in every situation, PP, PK 5v5, 4v4, OT. He makes everyone around him better. He's a good defensive player as well as dynamic offensively. Unlike Malkin, his heart and desire have never been questioned and he has more points this season.

How shouldn't it matter when considering injuries? Jagr was out, what? A couple of games? I know Pronger is a different story, and CG could be too, but... we have some of our best players (on D and O) out for months, if not half of a season. Not out for a few games, and then back.

Malkin's heart and dedication? Sure, I have questioned it. I am one of his biggest critics. But you are talking MVP league-wide this season, not based on what he has done last season, or what people might think of him based on PAST performance.

As far as PP, PK, 5v5, 4v4, and OT? Um, Malkin does it all too. He will often finish up on the PK, even if it is not on for a full shift.

I wouldn't object to CG getting MVP. He would certainly deserve it. However, to say definitely and NOW one would get it over the other is just naive. Maybe wishful thinking, but naive.

December 21, 2011  10:37 AM ET

In my not so expert opinion I think the buttgoblin should get it (when I say should I mean probably will give it to himself). For finally returning the realignment back to where it should be.

December 21, 2011  10:48 AM ET
QUOTE(#17):

However, to say definitely and NOW one would get it over the other is just naive. Maybe wishful thinking, but naive.

I said based on what we've seen so far this season. A season which is far from over. If Giroux stays hurt or doesn't come back and do what he's been doing, meanwhile Malkin goes on a tear, well then yeah. Obviously that would change the landscape of the discussion. I wasn't trying to hand him the trophy right now, i said based on what we've seen so far.

It's funny how one day you'll be on here Vageno this and Vageno that and now he's MVP material. When was the last time you heard someone refer to Claude as Snatchiroux or Vagiroux or something of that nature? These guys are both highly skilled players, the difference imo is that one takes advantage of opportunities and one goes out and makes opportunities.

 
December 21, 2011  10:54 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

it shouldn't matter if Crosby or Kunitz is out when we're talking about MVP for Malkin. It's about what he's done, not what they haven't. If that was the case, it should go to Rick Nash every year....

P.S. It should matter. MVP award is given to the player who is the most valuable to his team. Not someone who "shows up," every night. If that is the case, they would have to give it to a lot of people. A lot of guys show up and give it their all.

Who knows what will be the influence in their voting.

Look at past winners, Sid Crosby and Alex O? Neither played on the PK.

Chris Pronger. Did he lead in points that year?

So, even though CG seems like the obvious choice, cause he "does it all." Doesn't mean he will be.

Lastly, he may lead in points now, but doesn't mean he will come April.

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