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08:24 AM ET 12.22 | Montreal has won only three of its previous 13 games, a span over which a coach has lost his job. The mood in the Canadiens dressing room following their 5-1 loss to the Chicago Blackhawks Wednesday night could best be described as toxic. While Max Pacioretty was reluctant to discuss his failure to generate offence, defenceman P.K. Subban was quick to shoulder the blame for the loss. ... "I'm minus-4 in the past two games, it can't happen, not when you're playing 25, 26 minutes a night. You gotta be better. I know I have to be better. I know I cost my team two games in a row." Subban has been the Canadiens' leader in ice time this season, but he questioned whether he deserved it.

Montreal Gazette

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December 22, 2011  08:38 AM ET

The fact that this kid thinks the slide is all his fault speaks to the level of arrogance he has.

December 22, 2011  08:53 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

The fact that this kid thinks the slide is all his fault speaks to the level of arrogance he has.

What arrogance? I read the paragraph three times and I still don't see where he blames himself for the team's slide. He said that for a guy who plays 25-26 minutes a game he should play better, especially the last two games, and said he cost his team the last two games. They've sucked pretty much all year long. He has company in the blame game department.

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December 22, 2011  08:57 AM ET

It will all be better when Gomez returns. ;-)

December 22, 2011  09:00 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

It will all be better when Gomez returns. ;-)

Haha! The only way it can be better with Gomez it's because it's gonna change the topic from Cunneyworth who doesn't speak French to Gomez who doesn't score goals...

December 22, 2011  09:01 AM ET

Also, Subban is hit by big sophomore slump...Welcome in the NHL PK!

December 22, 2011  09:07 AM ET

Arrogance lol. Its a step up from whining about a neutral zone trap...

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December 22, 2011  09:28 AM ET

I dont see arrogance either. I see a young player demanding more of himself on the ice.

December 22, 2011  09:37 AM ET

On the whole the Canadians lost a good game against a top 4 team. It would have been bearable if not for that 5th goal.You cannot let that happen right after an empty netter. Very poor compete level Boys

December 22, 2011  09:46 AM ET

I never really liked the guy. I never thought he was as good as others thought he was. I thought Richards was exactly right when those 2 went at it his rookie season. He's a flagrant diver with huge gaps in his defensive game who runs his mouth and never really backs it up. Sure he had a decent rookie season, but that's about it.

Humility isn't something he's ever demonstrated before, so i hope you will forgive me for misinterpreting his statement.

December 22, 2011  09:54 AM ET
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I never really liked the guy. I never thought he was as good as others thought he was. I thought Richards was exactly right when those 2 went at it his rookie season. He's a flagrant diver with huge gaps in his defensive game who runs his mouth and never really backs it up. Sure he had a decent rookie season, but that's about it.Humility isn't something he's ever demonstrated before, so i hope you will forgive me for misinterpreting his statement.

Although I don't agree with your interpretation of Subban's comments, I do agree with your assessment of his play. I haven't liked the man ever since he sliced Staal's foot open in the playoffs on one night then cut the laces on Cooke's skate the next. The local Root channel went into the locker room before a Habs/Pens game and in the pregame talk Blysma told the troops to just ignore Subban.

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December 22, 2011  10:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

I thought Richards was exactly right when those 2 went at it his rookie season.

I thought Richards looked like a monkey's **** when he kept going on and on and on and on and on about it for months. And coming from a guy with Richards's reputation, it was laughable that he would go after Subban. Richards should have kept his mouth shut and worried about himself.

December 22, 2011  10:11 AM ET
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Although I don't agree with your interpretation of Subban's comments, I do agree with your assessment of his play. I haven't liked the man ever since he sliced Staal's foot open in the playoffs on one night then cut the laces on Cooke's skate the next. The local Root channel went into the locker room before a Habs/Pens game and in the pregame talk Blysma told the troops to just ignore Subban.

You forgot about him slew-footing Neal. ;)

Regardless, so much potential. Just needs to grow up, and needs some direction. There could be hope for him yet. He is young. There might be hope for you yet.

December 22, 2011  10:11 AM ET

him yet... sorry. ^

December 22, 2011  10:32 AM ET
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him yet... sorry. ^

Take some time off DWI. You're starting to post like a Leaf fan. :-)

December 22, 2011  10:39 AM ET
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Seriously? What else would a second year player have that's "decent" in the NHL? The time he walked up in the draft when his name was called? He had a "decent" (read: All-rookie team) rookie season, and before that he played a big part in a run to the conference finals. Are you judging him on the last two months on a terrible team during his second full NHL season? Are you so wise that you foresee no more good coming out of this young man? Have you ever watched this guy when he wasn't getting under the skin of your former captain?I forget sometimes how many experts we have in here.

Like i said before, maybe i was off base with the inital post, but i don't like the kid. If you read what i said you would know that i wasn't judging him based on the last 2 months, but his NHL career as a whole. Granted all 2 seasons of it.

I never made a prediction or indicated what his future might be, that's you putting words in my mouth. Who knows he could clean up his game and win the norris 8 times in the next 10 years. I doubt it, but i guess it's possible. And if it happened i would certainly acknowledge it. Regardless i didn't say anything about what the future holds.

And yes, ive seen him flop, run his mouth, do cheap stuff and be a defensive liability for his team against other teams besides Philly.

I'm glad you acknowledged me as an expert though. It's about time someone gives me the credit i so rightfully deserve.

December 22, 2011  10:51 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

The fact that this kid thinks the slide is all his fault speaks to the level of arrogance he has.

I have hated this guy since he entered the NHL, but I don't think his statement was arrogant. He is simply stating that as a defenseman, he needs to step up and stop the other team from scoring goals.

 
December 22, 2011  10:53 AM ET
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Who knows he could clean up his game and win the norris 8 times in the next 10 years. I doubt it, but i guess it's possible.

I will make a bold prediction. This clown will never win the Norris trophy!

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