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08:32 AM ET 01.16 | Urban Meyer has already worked a few Notre Dame assistants loose. Now he's pilfering Irish recruits, too. Offensive lineman Taylor Decker has switched commitments from Notre Dame to Ohio State after the Vandalia, Ohio, product took an official visit to the Buckeyes, according to multiple online reports. Decker is a 6-foot-8-inch, 310-pound four-star prospect, according to Rivals.com. He had been committed to the Irish since March, but Rivals.com reported that the move of Irish assistants Ed Warinner and Tim Hinton to Ohio State contributed to Decker's flip. It's the second decommitment suffered by the Irish in a week after top 100 prospect Ronald Darby reopened his recruiting.

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January 16, 2012  08:54 AM ET

Ho hum, andother adolescent changed his mind.
This is news? Let's wait until signing day and then its news if they change their mind afterward.

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January 16, 2012  09:08 AM ET

Maybe Cooper should talk about the NCAA taking a longer look at OSU's practices now that an SEC coach has taken over there.....

January 16, 2012  09:23 AM ET
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Maybe Cooper should talk about the NCAA taking a longer look at OSU's practices now that an SEC coach has taken over there.....

Not particularly looking to bash Meyer, but his Florida teams had a very high rate of player incidents with the police and other behavioral problems--though these were kept under the radar somehow.

January 16, 2012  10:18 AM ET
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Not particularly looking to bash Meyer, but his Florida teams had a very high rate of player incidents with the police and other behavioral problems--though these were kept under the radar somehow.

I will bash Meyer. I think he explodes on the scene in his first year or two but hits a wall shortly thereafter. He is more of a recruiter than a coach and without great assistants he is not very good. His maniacal approach to recruiting helps him get great athletes but he proved at Florida to be horrible at roster management. See the depth problems there in the last couple years.

He sells things like a greasy used car salesman and yet these kids continue to buy it. Thing is that he will either burn out again or not be as effective because he tries to slow down and be health conscious. Give him a couple key losses and he will crack like Humpty Dumpty.

January 16, 2012  10:20 AM ET
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Not particularly looking to bash Meyer, but his Florida teams had a very high rate of player incidents with the police and other behavioral problems--though these were kept under the radar somehow.

I dunno how you could say they were under any radar, I was thinking they were more like under a blazing light and microscope.


If this is a double-post, please accept my sincerest apologies.

January 16, 2012  10:30 AM ET
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I dunno how you could say they were under any radar, I was thinking they were more like under a blazing light and microscope.If this is a double-post, please accept my sincerest apologies.

No apologies needed...FN must have technical assistance help similar to what 0-6 and I could provide!

January 16, 2012  10:30 AM ET

wow a shocker, an immature 18 year kid changes his mind.... But since it is ND it makes big news..

January 16, 2012  10:31 AM ET
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I will bash Meyer. I think he explodes on the scene in his first year or two but hits a wall shortly thereafter. He is more of a recruiter than a coach and without great assistants he is not very good. His maniacal approach to recruiting helps him get great athletes but he proved at Florida to be horrible at roster management. See the depth problems there in the last couple years.

He sells things like a greasy used car salesman and yet these kids continue to buy it. Thing is that he will either burn out again or not be as effective because he tries to slow down and be health conscious. Give him a couple key losses and he will crack like Humpty Dumpty.

Well, at least you didn't try to say he was responsible for the JFK assassination and global warming. But it's early, and there's still plenty of time to take care of that. ;-)

I'll take 2 NCs in 3 years, even with all the change and less-than-stellar recent results. Nobody stays on top forever.

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January 16, 2012  10:53 AM ET
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Well, at least you didn't try to say he was responsible for the JFK assassination and global warming. But it's early, and there's still plenty of time to take care of that. ;-)I'll take 2 NCs in 3 years, even with all the change and less-than-stellar recent results. Nobody stays on top forever.

So, is he a great recruiter or not?

Some say he is and is an average coach. Others remark how he won with other recruits then bailed when the cupboard was bare after trying to win with his own.

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January 16, 2012  11:02 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Not particularly looking to bash Meyer, but his Florida teams had a very high rate of player incidents with the police and other behavioral problems--though these were kept under the radar somehow.

I agree but I have a feeling this will change dramatically since Ohio State is going to be under intense scrutiny.

January 16, 2012  11:13 AM ET
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And still more haven't the slightest effing idea what they're talking about, so what is the point you're trying to make?

No point, just asking a Gator if he thought that Meyer's strength was coaching or recruiting. You hear the those statements about the guy. Which is it? Can't be both.

You hear guys saying all he can do is recruit. And others say he left FL because the recruiting was bad and there was nothing there to coach, that's why they are .500 team now.

January 16, 2012  11:34 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Well, at least you didn't try to say he was responsible for the JFK assassination and global warming. But it's early, and there's still plenty of time to take care of that. ;-)I'll take 2 NCs in 3 years, even with all the change and less-than-stellar recent results. Nobody stays on top forever.

What about Pangaea breaking apart? They're still looking to pin that one on Saban.

January 16, 2012  11:35 AM ET
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No point, just asking a Gator if he thought that Meyer's strength was coaching or recruiting. You hear the those statements about the guy. Which is it? Can't be both

If it were both, his name would be Coach Saban.

January 16, 2012  11:59 AM ET
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If it were both, his name would be Coach Saban.

What, Saban can't coach or recruit?

January 16, 2012  12:24 PM ET
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What, Saban can't coach or recruit?

LOL! Well played, sir.


As for my opinion of Meyer, I think he is an excellent recruiter. Recruits better than he coaches, but not a BAD coach by any means.

As with just about any coach that has a successful run, the success is attributable to much more than just his coaching skill as an individual. Has to have good assistants, and the ability to gameplan well and then get it to execute on the field in order to win consistently. Like JK says, winning consistently provides opportunities for good assts to get their own gig - a REALLY good coach replaces good assts with good assts, and keeps the train rolling, but that's just one of the many things that have to happen to stay on top.

But even the REALLY good coaches can't stay on top for long, Bobby Bowden was about as good as anybody could be in replacing good assts with good assts IMO, but as with anything, it wasnt forever.

January 16, 2012  12:26 PM ET
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What about Pangaea breaking apart? They're still looking to pin that one on Saban.

What's his alibi? Gotta have an alibi, y'know...

 
January 16, 2012  12:38 PM ET
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What, Saban can't coach or recruit?

That doesn't even make sense. Nothing about my post implied I meant he can do neither.

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