Beckett breaks silence on Red Sox drinking scandal

Hookers, Booze, Blow and Fried Chicken. What starts in the dugout stays in the dugout

He is right...if the Sox win that last game, or any other, and they get into the playoffs instead of Tampa, none of this matters.

Teams drink in the clubhouse. Pitchers have different responsibilities during a game, and each team has a different clubhouse environment. Francona's certainly worked fine in 2004 and 2007, didn't it?

Yeah stuff should stay in the locker room...agreed. But also if you suck or have injury problems you can expect people to be critical if there's something you're doing that robs the team of your best. Honestly, Beckett needs to own up to it and make changes. He could be better and healthier for it.

Not so sure that guys drinking in the locker room during games in a pennant race is the norm.
It sure does not say much for that ole " it is all about the team" concept.
Beckett still does not man up and just say we were "wrong and a##holes" to go about it all the way we did.
Bobby V is the perfect manager for this group. He fits right in. Why do they think he could only find a job managing in JAPAN twice. He could not get a job in this country....

So, I'm drunk and we won would mean no one would care? I think he still in denial about how serious that is. Maybe that was part of the problem with boozing and eating while the team was learning. Is almost like the band still playing while the titanic was sinking.

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Originally posted 10:21 AM ET  02.04 by RJ gone

So, I'm drunk and we won would mean no one would care? I think he still in denial about how serious that is. Maybe that was part of the problem with boozing and eating while the team was learning. Is almost like the band still playing while the titanic was sinking.

Beckett is one of the biggest first class a##holes in all of baseball. always was.
He just happens to be a very good pitcher. So all is forgiven in some circles.

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Originally posted 09:10 AM ET  02.04 by Flea Biscuit

Hookers, Booze, Blow and Fried Chicken. What starts in the dugout stays in the dugout

new BoSox ad campaign?

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Originally posted 09:10 AM ET  02.04 by Flea Biscuit

Hookers, Booze, Blow and Fried Chicken. What starts in the dugout stays in the dugout

That's funny! Beckett trying to justify their behaviour by saying it would be different had they won.....is just sad!

It's the Bobby Knight philosophy - 'Winning justifies the basest behavior'. They'll always be those that preach it.

It's absolutely true though. In '04 Millar & Company drank shots before the game. But since they won it was OK. They were cult heroes then.

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Originally posted 10:58 AM ET  02.04 by 50yearfan

Beckett is one of the biggest first class a##holes in all of baseball. always was. He just happens to be a very good pitcher. So all is forgiven in some circles.

My father met both Lou Gehrig and Babe Ruth. Gehrig was a first class a##hole, and everyone knew it. Ruth was an alcoholic and a serial w-h-o-r-e humper. But Gehrig could play the game, and Ruth would play sandlot ball with the kids while his woman was waiting.

You don't have to like a guy, so long as he fights for the team and executes.

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Originally posted 12:08 PM ET  02.04 by fariss

It's absolutely true though. In '04 Millar & Company drank shots before the game. But since they won it was OK. They were cult heroes then.

The Red Sox "Idiots" took pride in being the anti-Wall-Street group. It's why Damon had the caveman look, and Manny always wore a dirty helmet. Yin needs yang to make the world go round. It's what makes the rivalry interesting.

Character. It counts.
Not just this guy, but this guy too.

There's a clubhouse snitch or two in that organization.

How can he say that the alcohol didn't affect anything? How does he know if they didn't get fat from eating fried chicken and beer after every game that they wouldn't have won? Very easy to say if they won one more game that no one wouldn't be talking about it. But they didn't. They were horrible the last month. Conditioning is part of sports you **** lol. Good to hear he hasn't learned jack

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Originally posted 09:10 AM ET  02.04 by Flea Biscuit

Hookers, Booze, Blow and Fried Chicken. What starts in the dugout stays in the dugout

where there is a lack of respectability, its a lack of confidenciality, anything that its from your own files, records, or anything that have to do with your private life should be confidencial, beckett its right whatever happen in the dugout should have stayed there, and whatever happen in their bullpen should stay there, but all that i can see here its, that the red sox owners or excecutives were trying to find a guilty person to being able to throw at that person all the fault, the team collapse? the owners can't hide their face? what they do? wash their hands and find a guilty person, in that way they would said we took care of that problem!!!

The far bigger issue for me remains how obviously out-of-shape some of the players were (definitely contributed to Youkilis breaking down) and how inappropriately conditioned the pitchers were (exercise is great but when it is appropriate to the athletic endeavor. Train the wrong muscles and at best you lose flexibility and range of motion, at worst you see some bizarre injuries (think Jon Lester's issues mid-season). This was a multi-faceted trainwreck and I hope the surgeon has done a good job debriding this wound. We'll see....

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Originally posted 12:51 PM ET  02.04 by THE BISHOP!

There's a clubhouse snitch or two in that organization.

the good teaching starts from the top, the owners can't said that they are perffect, if you fire your manager, then you throw dirt on your GM's face, that's a sign that you are dipleased with all the results with your team, the best thing to do its, make alots of wood from the tree that its laying down in the floor!!!

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Originally posted 12:08 PM ET  02.04 by fariss

It's absolutely true though. In '04 Millar & Company drank shots before the game. But since they won it was OK. They were cult heroes then.

There's a difference. and Beckett doesn't get it. Millar and co. had A shot before A game. before. It was a bonding thing and a morale thing before a big game. It brought the team closer together and it eased the tension before the biggest game in their season. Beckett, Lester and co were drinking beerS, and eating chicken DURING gameS. IT was an anti-bonding thing because they left the bench during games. By their actions, they were saying: "I really don't care who wins/loses this game because I won't be in it." It not only effected their readiness to play in the game and hand but it hurt their abilities to play in the games that they did play in. Beckett and Lester literally got fat over the course of the season.