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08:13 AM ET 02.07 | Jeremy Guthrie is headed to the Rockies, shipped to Colorado, perhaps a year too late. They waited too long to move Guthrie and received too little in return. They need prospects, genuine prospects, and they did not get one in the deal that they completed with the Colorado Rockies on Monday. Guthrie for right-handed starter Jason Hammel and reliever Matt Lindstrom makes sense in a vacuum. The combined salaries of Hammel and Lindstrom in 2012 will be in the range of Guthrie's. ... [Hammel and Lindstrom] likely will not even help the Orioles advance toward contention. They are mediocre veterans -- Lindstrom may be a little better than that -- while Guthrie, 32, is a pitcher who had actual value.

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February 7, 2012 09:14 AM ET

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First ... for a reason. No one cares about this.

The Moose

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February 7, 2012 09:16 AM ET

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Originally posted 09:14 AM ET 02.07 by The Moose

First ... for a reason. No one cares about this.

Morning moose.

clemtheslowson

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February 7, 2012 09:20 AM ET

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2nd, just for the heck of it. The Orioles are and will always be hopeless until Angelos sells the team.

Capsfan

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February 7, 2012 12:01 PM ET

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the orioles don't need guthrie, this pitcher wasn't never able to be a conssistant in any season with the birds, plus hammel could be a good addition to the birds roster, the orioles would need to work only with their own minor system,because it doesn't matter who the birds sign, they just can't turn this franchise just like that, the orioles shouldn't try to sign any free agent at least for the next 3 years at most!!!!

alacran

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February 7, 2012 12:03 PM ET

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can the orioles do themselves a favor??? stop signing big players to a big contracts because at the end they would never be able to have a talented players in their lineup!!!

alacran

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February 7, 2012 12:47 PM ET

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The Orioles were so good for so long that I still wince when I see what Peter Angelos has done to them. He is baseball's answer to Jerry Jones, who after years and years of failure still thinks he knows what he's doing. If the Orioles were contracted I couldn't mount a protest. As Capsfan said, nothing will change until he goes.

Rickapolis

Annapolis , MD

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February 7, 2012 01:05 PM ET

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while Guthrie, 32, is a pitcher who had actual value

It all depends upon one's definition of value.

THE BISHOP!

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February 7, 2012 01:56 PM ET

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Originally posted 01:05 PM ET 02.07 by THE BISHOP!

It all depends upon one's definition of value.

True... he was 9 - 17 last year.

If Value is eating up innings - without having to Win - then he has Value...

TheBone

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February 7, 2012 05:13 PM ET

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Originally posted 01:05 PM ET 02.07 by THE BISHOP!

while Guthrie, 32, is a pitcher who had actual valueIt all depends upon one's definition of value.

He did have value a few years ago. A number of teams would have given up a fair bit for him. Now... not so much

fvkasm2x

Edmonton, AB

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February 7, 2012 05:16 PM ET

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Guthrie will have a revival in the NL West. Even pitching half his games in Colorado, there is no DH, no Yankees, and no Red Sox. Plus, pitching in LA, San Diego and San Fran will help your numbers.