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RGIII's shotgun draft drawback

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11:01 AM ET 02.19 | One of the major issues for teams scouting the NFL draft is how so many college offenses are spread, with the quarterback receiving snaps from center at least five yards behind the line of scrimmage. Stanford's Andrew Luck is so loved by the pros in part because he typically took snaps straight from the center.The Browns would love to grab Luck, and probably will try to at least make some attempt to deal for him. There's also conversation about the Browns and other quarterback-hungry teams trading up for with the Rams for the No. 2 pick, then taking Robert Griffin III. The Baylor quarterback has worked mostly out of the spread, one scout estimating more than 90 percent of his passes coming from the shotgun.

Cleveland Plain Dealer

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February 19, 2012  11:32 AM ET

Very disjointed writing. What are you trying to say?

February 19, 2012  11:49 AM ET

The Browns already have a QB that threw mostly from the shotgun, the difference between the two is arm strength, RG III would have the same problems Colt has, nobody to throw too, a sieve for a front line, no running game and a HC who even affter getting an OC is sttill going to call the same plays that the whole NFL knew was coming. SO, keep Colt and fix the other issues.

February 19, 2012  11:54 AM ET

Colt is horrible... he's not in Texas anymore.

February 19, 2012  12:06 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

The Browns already have a QB that threw mostly from the shotgun, the difference between the two is arm strength, RG III would have the same problems Colt has, nobody to throw too, a sieve for a front line, no running game and a HC who even affter getting an OC is sttill going to call the same plays that the whole NFL knew was coming. SO, keep Colt and fix the other issues.

Between McCoy and RGIII, you'd have to take RGIII in a heartbeat. Much more upside than McCoy. And, with the right training camp, coaching, and initiative, he could start the regular season on Day 1.

February 19, 2012  12:41 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Very disjointed writing. What are you trying to say?

I don't know, I don't know. Deadline was approaching and I was goofing off all day. Regards, T Pluto. Cleveland Plaindealer.

February 19, 2012  01:17 PM ET

Cleveland Home of Many Quarterbacks and a lot of bad Coaching!!!

February 19, 2012  01:38 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Very disjointed writing. What are you trying to say?

Trying to say that RGIII may not be NFL-ready. Pretty clear to me!

February 19, 2012  01:48 PM ET

The Browns already have a QB that threw mostly from the shotgun, the difference between the two is arm strength, RG III would have the same problems Colt has, nobody to throw too, a sieve for a front line, no running game and a HC who even affter getting an OC is sttill going to call the same plays that the whole NFL knew was coming. SO, keep Colt and fix the other issues.

YES! A reasonable line of thinking. Brown's Priorities: 1) O-line 2) Wide-out 3) LB

February 19, 2012  01:52 PM ET

@Ogre57 Sorry for stealing your quote without the highlight. First time user.

February 19, 2012  02:12 PM ET

CLE_fan122 go to the quote you want to insert and click on the quote button at the top right, then typo your comment and click submit and what the spinny thing for a while

February 19, 2012  02:32 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

@Ogre57 Sorry for stealing your quote without the highlight. First time user.

It's not stealing, it's called communal borrowing. ;-)

February 19, 2012  03:17 PM ET

Its not very hard to learn to take snaps from under center. The spread offense is used heavily in college and many of the best QB's in the league came from this system.

If the Browns are going to take RG III they are most likely going to have to trade up to get him which will cost them their 2 first round picks. I highly doubt he will be available at 4 but if he was then they would most likely take him and a WR with their second pick. The best things the Browns could do is trade up for RG III and pick up a FA receiver, this way they don't have to worry about a QB and WR learning the game on the go.

February 19, 2012  03:24 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

The best things the Browns could do is trade up for RG III and pick up a FA receiver, this way they don't have to worry about a QB and WR learning the game on the go.

It worked for Dalton and A.J. Greene.

February 19, 2012  03:42 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

It worked for Dalton and A.J. Greene.

But unfortunately there is no receiver in this draft even close to A.J. Greene.

February 19, 2012  04:37 PM ET

See... I don't really see a big reason the Browns should make the trades to move up to the #2 slot.

The hype around the Julio Jones trade last year was that it gave the Browns a treasure trove of high draft picks to work with and build a team around. I see absolutely no reason for them to undo that to move from #4 to #2. That's just greedy, especially with the talent up there on the draft board. If the Browns do nothing to move spots, they are GUARANTEED one of the following players: RGIII, Kalil, Blackmon, Richardson, or Claibourne.

There will always be quarterbacks to be excited about on draft day. The Browns have more holes than that, and they're in a pretty good position to pick up some good players in the draft. Why waste it on drafting a quarterback that has nobody to throw to anyway?

February 19, 2012  04:48 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

The Browns already have a QB that threw mostly from the shotgun, the difference between the two is arm strength, RG III would have the same problems Colt has, nobody to throw too, a sieve for a front line, no running game and a HC who even affter getting an OC is sttill going to call the same plays that the whole NFL knew was coming. SO, keep Colt and fix the other issues.YES! A reasonable line of thinking. Brown's Priorities: 1) O-line 2) Wide-out 3) LB

CLE FAN: I admire your committment to your team. It appear to exceed their committment to the City of Cleveland. Anyway, Yes, the Browns need help at OL, WR and LB. Also, they need upgrades at CB, S, DL, TE, RB and QB.
When you look only at the teams basic needs, you may have a team which is marginally better the next season. Then players get old, injured, sign elsewhere as Free Agents, and some draft picks do not pan out. Then you go back to losing with a very bad record such as 4-12 or 5-11. This describes the history of the Cleveland Browns. A team that seemingly never gets over the hump. The only time they did, they were better known as the Baltimore Ravens.

February 19, 2012  04:49 PM ET

The Colts will draft Andrew Luck and be back in the Playoffs in three years. The Browns will not make the Playoffs in any of those years. No disrespect, just telling it like it is.

February 19, 2012  06:27 PM ET

Browns would be foolish to part with their 2 1st round draft picks for RG3. Don't believe the hype, he is going to suck. They should build through the draft, get McCoy a receiver, then look at a QB in next years draft.

February 19, 2012  08:20 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

See... I don't really see a big reason the Browns should make the trades to move up to the #2 slot.The hype around the Julio Jones trade last year was that it gave the Browns a treasure trove of high draft picks to work with and build a team around. I see absolutely no reason for them to undo that to move from #4 to #2. That's just greedy, especially with the talent up there on the draft board. If the Browns do nothing to move spots, they are GUARANTEED one of the following players: RGIII, Kalil, Blackmon, Richardson, or Claibourne.There will always be quarterbacks to be excited about on draft day. The Browns have more holes than that, and they're in a pretty good position to pick up some good players in the draft. Why waste it on drafting a quarterback that has nobody to throw to anyway?

RG III is going to be a very solid QB in the NFL and they NEED him to move forward. That being said, the only way they should go after him is "IF" they have already secured a solid WR through free agency. They could then get a solid RT with their early second round pick and immediately upgrade their offense.

I would also like to see them pick up a solid versatile DE in free agency, someone like Cliff Avril would be a great fit alongside Sheard and Taylor.

 
February 19, 2012  08:42 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Its not very hard to learn to take snaps from under center. The spread offense is used heavily in college and many of the best QB's in the league came from this system. If the Browns are going to take RG III they are most likely going to have to trade up to get him which will cost them their 2 first round picks. I highly doubt he will be available at 4 but if he was then they would most likely take him and a WR with their second pick. The best things the Browns could do is trade up for RG III and pick up a FA receiver, this way they don't have to worry about a QB and WR learning the game on the go.

The Bengals had a Rookie QB and WR learn together this past season, I think they did ok.

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