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08:24 AM ET 02.22 | A few hours after reports linked them to Rick Nash, the Sharks went out and were embarrassed by the big forward's team. With or without Nash, the Sharks aren't in a good place. "We've pretty much hit bottom now and hopefully we can dig our way out of it," captain Joe Thornton said, "because we're definitely in a race now to get into the playoffs." While coach Todd McLellan was most concerned about his team's lack of urgency, San Jose's troubles also could be traced to undisciplined penalties that led directly to three Blue Jacket goals. "Right now, as fragile as this team is, we can't take those undisciplined penalties," Thornton said. Antti Niemi started the game in goal for the Sharks, but was gone after 15:18.

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February 22, 2012  08:41 AM ET

I can't WAIT til after the trade deadline. I am SO SICK OF NASH!!!

Like I said, I almost hope he is a bust for whatever team gets him. You would think he is second coming of JC!

February 22, 2012  08:49 AM ET

Right now, as fragile as this team is, we can't take those undisciplined penalties

Yikes, the HC is calling the team fragile... well, the truth hurts sometimes

February 22, 2012  08:50 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

I can't WAIT til after the trade deadline. I am SO SICK OF NASH!!!Like I said, I almost hope he is a bust for whatever team gets him. You would think he is second coming of JC!

agree, the trade rumors are getting in the way of good hockey games at this point. playoffs are on the horizon, so the deadline cannot come soon enough.

February 22, 2012  09:08 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

agree, the trade rumors are getting in the way of good hockey games at this point. playoffs are on the horizon, so the deadline cannot come soon enough.

but there are things that actually help teams and will hopefully make the playoffs more interesting. I agree, we don't need to know that every team in the league except Pittsburgh is looking at this guy.

February 22, 2012  09:20 AM ET

I'm having the strangest feeling of deja vu here.

February 22, 2012  09:28 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

but there are things that actually help teams and will hopefully make the playoffs more interesting. I agree, we don't need to know that every team in the league except Pittsburgh is looking at this guy.

I agree with that fact, but the specualtion itself appears to be overshadowing the otherwise great hockey stories out there, which is sad.

For example - I believe Fleury just tied Barrasso on the Pens all time shut out list. The Pens beating the Rangers is a great "playoff" story. Think of these 2 teams in a 7 game series in April or May ...awesome.

February 22, 2012  09:29 AM ET

It's like the crosby threads all over agin, except this time it's Nash trade rumors.

February 22, 2012  09:34 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

I can't WAIT til after the trade deadline. I am SO SICK OF NASH!!!Like I said, I almost hope he is a bust for whatever team gets him. You would think he is second coming of JC!

LMAO. Although I understand he does turn the Gatorade into wine between periods. :-)

February 22, 2012  09:47 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

I agree with that fact, but the specualtion itself appears to be overshadowing the otherwise great hockey stories out there, which is sad.For example - I believe Fleury just tied Barrasso on the Pens all time shut out list. The Pens beating the Rangers is a great "playoff" story. Think of these 2 teams in a 7 game series in April or May ...awesome.

Rangers are a VERY, very good team. Not sure I want to face them in the playoffs. For that matter, not sure I want to face Flyers, Devils, Boston, or the Rangers. LOL! Can that be arranged? ;)

You are right about MAF. Great game last night. Very lucky to have Fleury, but he needs a rest. Right now, our back up goalie isn't allowing him one. As much as I like Johnny, and as much as he was reliable in the past, Shero may have to go for a reliable back up in the next day or two, or in the off season.

February 22, 2012  10:01 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

I can't WAIT til after the trade deadline. I am SO SICK OF NASH!!

Like I said, I almost hope he is a bust for whatever team gets him. You would think he is second coming of JC!

How about Downie to the Avs, Quincy ends up in Detroit, and Stevie ends up with a butt load of picks? Nah, too topical.

I wonder what RN's having for breakfast?

February 22, 2012  10:03 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

I can't WAIT til after the trade deadline. I am SO SICK OF NASH!!!Like I said, I almost hope he is a bust for whatever team gets him. You would think he is second coming of JC!

Many a team in the league would gladly take him on their team...if the price was right.

And now you know how some people felt about the constant Sid stories!

February 22, 2012  10:05 AM ET
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How about Downie to the Avs, Quincy ends up in Detroit, and Stevie ends up with a butt load of picks? Nah, too topical.I wonder what RN's having for breakfast?

Downie to the Avs? Good. Will be seeing him a lot less. He's always managing or trying to mame a Pen when we play Tampa. Hate that idiot!

February 22, 2012  10:05 AM ET
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Many a team in the league would gladly take him on their team...if the price was right.And now you know how some people felt about the constant Sid stories!

Yes, but quite frankly I don't care.

P.S. Sid is better than Nash...so there.

February 22, 2012  10:11 AM ET
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Rangers are a VERY, very good team. Not sure I want to face them in the playoffs. For that matter, not sure I want to face Flyers, Devils, Boston, or the Rangers. LOL! Can that be arranged? ;)You are right about MAF. Great game last night. Very lucky to have Fleury, but he needs a rest. Right now, our back up goalie isn't allowing him one. As much as I like Johnny, and as much as he was reliable in the past, Shero may have to go for a reliable back up in the next day or two, or in the off season.

all the Rangrs need is someone that can score a little more often (hence the talk about you-know-who) They do seem to be built for close, playoff type games though. Great win for Pittsburgh yesterday. MAF looked good, but so did henrik. Some games, I am reminded of the olde Bob Gibson story where the guys would walk up to him after 1 run and say, "there's your run"

February 22, 2012  10:11 AM ET

More on topic.

Spiny, do you think the Rangers should trade to get Nash? And if so, what would you trade?

February 22, 2012  10:17 AM ET

Columbus GM: OK Boston, we'll trade you Nash but you have to send back Rask, Hamilton and a 1st rounder.

Boston GM: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yes, this conversation actually happened, I'm just assuming that Chiraelli just laughed in return.

February 22, 2012  10:29 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Rangers are a VERY, very good team. Not sure I want to face them in the playoffs. For that matter, not sure I want to face Flyers, Devils, Boston, or the Rangers. LOL! Can that be arranged? ;)You are right about MAF. Great game last night. Very lucky to have Fleury, but he needs a rest. Right now, our back up goalie isn't allowing him one. As much as I like Johnny, and as much as he was reliable in the past, Shero may have to go for a reliable back up in the next day or two, or in the off season.

East matchups are going to be tough. I don't care who the 5-8 slots are, the top 4 won't mean very much this season. just my opinion.
I except a lot of 6-7 game series.

February 22, 2012  10:30 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

all the Rangrs need is someone that can score a little more often (hence the talk about you-know-who) They do seem to be built for close, playoff type games though. Great win for Pittsburgh yesterday. MAF looked good, but so did henrik. Some games, I am reminded of the olde Bob Gibson story where the guys would walk up to him after 1 run and say, "there's your run"

Nash would definately give them a scoring threat.
But they would have to give up some players who got them to this point... tough to want to mess up good chemistry.

February 22, 2012  10:31 AM ET
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Columbus GM: OK Boston, we'll trade you Nash but you have to send back Rask, Hamilton and a 1st rounder.Boston GM: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAYes, this conversation actually happened, I'm just assuming that Chiraelli just laughed in return.

B's are going to be in an interesting position, esp. since Horton's status is up in the air.

 
February 22, 2012  10:32 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

More on topic.Spiny, do you think the Rangers should trade to get Nash? And if so, what would you trade?

I would. And much as I like Dubie, I would send him, krieder and the 1st round pick.
here's why: Nash can flat out play. He also only 27 and signed for another 5 years or so. It has been my experience that when someone doesn't always have to be "the guy", that it makes life easier, and they usually play better. This would then benefit Gaborik, Richards and Nash. (as well as the guys like Callahan, Boyle and fedotenko...if he's okay) And that everyone is signed would keep this team together for a bit, and in spite of the occasional trouble scoring (which i think will pass) quite formidable for that time.

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