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08:50 AM ET 02.25 | Packers general manager Ted Thompson declined to say if the team would use the franchise tag on Matt Flynn, which would enable the Packers to try to trade him instead of losing him for nothing. That decision must be made by March 5 - eight days before free agency begins. An associate of Flynn said he would be surprised if that happened because Green Bay would on the hook for a $14.4 million salary if it couldn't trade him. And the Packers likely would get a compensatory third-round draft pick if it lost him in free agency.

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February 25, 2012  08:54 AM ET

Let him walk. A couple of good games does not an NFL starter make.
Plenty of good clipboard holders out there for a fraction of the money.
Just erase his brain first so he doesn't give away the recipe for cheese.

February 25, 2012  09:01 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Let him walk. A couple of good games does not an NFL starter make.

Are you channeling Yoda?

February 25, 2012  09:03 AM ET

OK, franchise him and trade him or lose him for nothing... where does the compensatory 3rd round draft pick come in if they lose him in free agency? how would they lose him for nothing if they get a draft pick???

February 25, 2012  09:17 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

OK, franchise him and trade him or lose him for nothing... where does the compensatory 3rd round draft pick come in if they lose him in free agency? how would they lose him for nothing if they get a draft pick???

If you lose more than you sign in FA you can be awarded a pick in rounds 3-7.
If it is the same but you lose a higher contract value to the player you lost then you can receive no higher than a 7th round pick.
If you lose a guy that gets a lot of money you can be given a compensatory pick, no higher than a third round.
You cannot trade those picks. A board in March decides that stuff.
Don't try to figure it out, it will make your head spin.

February 25, 2012  09:18 AM ET

The answer to the question is NO, they will not franchise him.

February 25, 2012  09:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

The answer to the question is NO, they will not franchise him.

Second that

February 25, 2012  09:25 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

If you lose more than you sign in FA you can be awarded a pick in rounds 3-7. If it is the same but you lose a higher contract value to the player you lost then you can receive no higher than a 7th round pick. If you lose a guy that gets a lot of money you can be given a compensatory pick, no higher than a third round. You cannot trade those picks. A board in March decides that stuff. Don't try to figure it out, it will make your head spin.

thanks 50, and I agree >>>>>do not franchise him

February 25, 2012  10:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

thanks 50, and I agree >>>>>do not franchise him

Those picks come at the end of rounds which really puts them in the next round.
So, I say if you get a third round pick , and it is not until everybody else has picked in round three, then you are really getting a fourth round value pick.

February 25, 2012  10:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

The answer to the question is NO, they will not franchise him.

Yep.

I think after three or four threads, everyone has figured out this wouldn't make sense for the Pack.

February 25, 2012  10:17 AM ET

they only franchise him if they can get a team to commit a contract to him prior to franchising him. For example if both Seattle and Miami want him, Seattle might handshake a deal where there's a trade and contract in place prior to franchising. Two teams have to want him bad enough that one team is willing to make this deal (See Chiefs and Cassel as kind of an example of this)

February 25, 2012  10:18 AM ET

they only franchise him if they can get a team to commit a contract to him prior to franchising him. For example if both Seattle and Miami want him, Seattle might handshake a deal where there's a trade and contract in place prior to franchising. Two teams have to want him bad enough that one team is willing to make this deal (See Chiefs and Cassel as kind of an example of this)

February 25, 2012  10:19 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Are you channeling Yoda?

It's better than the Yodeling channel.

February 25, 2012  10:21 AM ET

I guess the Eagles are not franchising VY either. Ah well.

February 25, 2012  10:53 AM ET

This is precisely what the Pats did with Matt Cassel. They franchised him and then moved him to KC.

February 25, 2012  11:08 AM ET

Didn't he play in just one game last year?? Anyone thinking about picking him up might want to study the Kevin Kolb file.

February 25, 2012  11:10 AM ET
QUOTE(#13):

I guess the Eagles are not franchising VY either. Ah well.

I thought they used their tag on fat man reid

February 25, 2012  11:15 AM ET

After Rob Johnson, why in the heck would you even contemplate this?!? Let the guy walk onto some other teams' cap sheet.

February 25, 2012  11:17 AM ET

last I heard was $14 million for one year to franchise ... if so, this is beyond ridiculous. And any team that signs him long term for that kind of coin, gets nothing guaranteed in return.

February 25, 2012  11:22 AM ET

Packers coach Mike McCarthy said Friday, "In my opinion, he's ready to be an NFL starter. If I was a club who was looking for a good young quarterback, he's definitely someone I would talk to."

Does this sound like franchising talk? (BTW, why are they paying him $14.4 million?)

 
February 25, 2012  11:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

This is precisely what the Pats did with Matt Cassel. They franchised him and then moved him to KC.

Packers need to fully consider the Cassell precedent. If they do, they'll let him walk. There was a market for Cassell and it was based on a bigger sample of what he could do as Cassell played virtually an entire season for an 11 win team. Secondly, the Patriots were carrying a certain degree of doubt whether Brady would be fully recovered. SO, they Patriots had to prepare for that contingency. Finally, hindsight suggests that KC overpaid for Cassell. Packers cannot expect to receive a high 2nd round in return like the Pats got for Cassell. Even then, the Patriots had to sweeten the deal by including Mike Vrabel. Packers should not tie up that much payroll for Flynn, even temporarily. Let him walk. The best that they could get for him is a 5th round pick, maybe 4th if they're lucky.

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